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There were probably still plenty of mono crackerboxes in 1983. I think ROTJ played at least one Drive In in my area back then. (They had those metal window speakers to the very end.) Maybe we'll get lucky with the audio of the 16mm print Puggo's working on.

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There were probably still plenty of mono crackerboxes in 1983. I think ROTJ played at least one Drive In in my area back then. (They had those metal window speakers to the very end.) Maybe we'll get lucky with the audio of the 16mm print Puggo's working on.

I hope so!

Mavimao did an excellent job of GOUT-syncing the TESB monomix from Puggo's print. I wish Belbucus was still around so that he could work his magic on it.

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Wolfman said:

 Wow! Thanks for putting these up.


No problem. :-) I'll try to put all of them up, eventually. I'll probably get kicked off YouTube, lol.

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I hope Rinzler's promise to George to not write any more books on the making of a star wars film was just a joke.  He mentions it in the book.  I want to see him write the making of Episode VII.

Would have been interesting to see him pen better making of books for Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones but doubt they will do those there is probably no interest.

The original trilogy storyboards book looks to be interesting.  Now i sort of see why there were about none of them in the making of empire or jedi they wanted to sell more books.

I know the first book making of star wars only had selected ones in the premium hardcover  as a bonus.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Would have been interesting to see him pen better making of books for Phantom Menace or Attack of the Clones but doubt they will do those there is probably no interest. 

At a short talk that Rinzler gave in London, he gave the impression that The Making Of The Phantom Menace book was ready to go. Everything is complete for the book, but because of the new film being released, Disney/Lucasfilm has put the book on hold for a while or they may not ever release it. Rinzler said how it would be a shame if the book were never published because of all the great content. Fantastic news then that the Original Trilogy Storyboard book has made it through for next year.

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Even as a PT anti-fan, I have an interest in how the PT was made (well, TPM more than the second two, anyway). The concept art alone is intriguing.

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If Rinzler went through the trouble and did the research and already wrote the book on Episode I why would Disney just pull the plug.  That is nonsensical.

Its like the rumor of them pulling the plug on the whole EU during or after 2014. I mean in terms of Del Rey books and Dark Horse comics.  But they cancelled that star wars game and cancelled clone wars.  So i guess anything is possible.

The period of between 1983 and 1999 really interest me.  What aborted concepts for the prequels for instance they had originally been planned to come out in 1988.  According i think to the making of Jedi but a few years off became 16.  What were the original outlines for the sequel trilogy ?

I know a lot of this is explored in Zombie's book but from official rather than 3rd or 2nd hand sources would be nice. 

What i mean is real planning and treatments or ideas for the prequels and sequels not the bullshit Lucas told the press.

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skyjedi2005 said:

If Rinzler went through the trouble and did the research and already wrote the book on Episode I why would Disney just pull the plug.  That is nonsensical.

Ahem... Rob McGregor wrote a novel to accompany the video game "Indiana Jones and the Staff of Kings", but it was shelved (despite being completely finished) because the game was delayed. So yeah, I guess anything IS possible.

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skyjedi2005 said:

If Rinzler went through the trouble and did the research and already wrote the book on Episode I why would Disney just pull the plug.  That is nonsensical.

It makes perfect sense if you take Disney strictly at their word.  They killed the 3D releases of Episode II and III and Clone Wars cartoon because they said they wanted to focus on the OT timeframe in the lead up to Episode VII.  It's a marketing decision.  The thought, as I understand it, is that anything else (especially prequel) is an unwanted distraction from their OT message.

I assume the Old Republic was already a done deal with contracts at least a decade out, otherwise it too likely would have been delayed.

 

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Its like the rumor of them pulling the plug on the whole EU during or after 2014. I mean in terms of Del Rey books and Dark Horse comics.  But they cancelled that star wars game and cancelled clone wars.  So i guess anything is possible.


Cancelling the EU? Let me guess -- that would then lead to a relaunch of the EU, which only brings to mind crap like this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f2/Crisis1.jpg

and this

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9f/The_New_52.jpg

I'm all for the EU being rebooted -- the EU completists deserve to have their bubble broken -- but I certainly do not need to see a poorly conceived, poorly executed in-universe "event" that literally shows the continuity of the universe being altered.

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DuracellEnergizer said:I certainly do not need to see a poorly conceived, poorly executed in-universe "event" that literally shows the continuity of the universe being altered.

 

I'm with you on that. Such an "event" would truly be completionism at the expense of quality.

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I've been out comic collecting circles for a long time, but I never heard Crisis regarded as crap. It was an attempt to smooth out 50 years' worth of continuity issues. The EU is hardly that messy. ;)

Unless wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff goes in the EU these days, I can't see the Galaxy Far Far Away being altered in such a fashion, without a ridiculous amount of deus ex machina, that would be below the dignity of fifth rate fan fiction.

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That was Superman's prototype attire before he fully embraced acting in the public eye. It's a clever in-between of country boy and superhero.

 

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SilverWook said:

I've been out comic collecting circles for a long time, but I never heard Crisis regarded as crap. It was an attempt to smooth out 50 years' worth of continuity issues. The EU is hardly that messy. ;)

Unless wibbly wobbly timey wimey stuff goes in the EU these days, I can't see the Galaxy Far Far Away being altered in such a fashion, without a ridiculous amount of deus ex machina, that would be below the dignity of fifth rate fan fiction.

Crisis was totally uneccesary in my opinion. I would have preferred an outright reboot.

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ray_afraid said:

SilverWook said:

I've been out comic collecting circles for a long time, but I never heard Crisis regarded as crap.

Because it's not. Kids these days, eh?

Maybe the fact they keep rebooting the DC universe has diluted the impact it once had?

Kids probably don't realize what the old SW Marvel comic meant to fans when you couldn't see the movie at home. No EU, or Episode IV, just Star Wars. :)

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And just to steer things back on topic, does the book or digital version have pictures of aliens from Jabba's court that didn't get much screen time?

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darklordoftech said:

Crisis was totally uneccesary in my opinion. I would have preferred an outright reboot.

Well, DC has done that too, so... I think Crisis was interesting. Especially in it's time. I'm more a Marvel guy so DC's weird spins on continuity and such don't bother me.

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Do we have a comics thread in off topic? We could probably use one.

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I've been out comic collecting circles for a long time, but I never heard Crisis regarded as crap.


The art was fantastic, but the storyline was wrong-headed and poorly executed.

Destroying the DC Multiverse and replacing it with a single DC Universe just to simplify continuity? They could have simply just stopped telling stories set on Earth-One and started focusing on a new Earth within the Multiverse.

And the Anti-Monitor has the worst motivation of any villain ever -- he's basically a fan of chocolate ice cream who hates vanilla ice cream, therefore he's going to blow up every vanilla ice cream factory in the world. Even the PT villains have better motivation than that.

And don't get me started on all the continuity issues that popped up later as a result of Crisis.

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skyjedi2005 said:
The original trilogy storyboards book looks to be interesting.  Now i sort of see why there were about none of them in the making of empire or jedi they wanted to sell more books.


Thanks for the heads-up about the OT storyboards book- I had no idea that was being released.

I didn't even know the PT version existed. :-P I wonder why that one was released first?

I still cherish my OT "ART OF" books (pre-SE). I think they were very well done. The ESB notebook was interesting as well.

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Mielr said:I still cherish my OT "ART OF" books (pre-SE). I think they were very well done.

 Art of ESB is the first place to use the word, "mandalorian".

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Mielr said:


I still cherish my OT "ART OF" books (pre-SE).


I found the one for Star Wars kind of disappointing, myself, actually. That famous painting of Vader fighting Deak wasn't even in it =(

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DuracellEnergizer said:

Mielr said:


I still cherish my OT "ART OF" books (pre-SE).

I found the one for Star Wars kind of disappointing, myself, actually. That famous painting of Vader fighting Deak wasn't even in it =(


That was in the McQuarrie portfolio, though. I personally didn't expect to see every McQuarrie concept piece in the books; I think they were meant to be overviews of all the type of art involved with the films, incl. costumes, matte paintings, etc.