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My main beef with this scene is that there is no workprint cut of what it was before they made it more slick.

I assume it was a good decision without seeing any scenes that were filmed or how it was originally in workprint.

But my gut feeling tells me that this sequence was a headache and probably dragged but I would like to have seen it before they changed it.

The special edition forgetting the vader on the deathstar abomination does not mean that the original workprint dragged but they must have cut scenes or deviated from script for good reasons.

I wonder if the script was edited order wise to relate to the footage more closely as Vader watching the falcon (departing) would suggest that scene of him walking on to the landing platform was meant to appear before Luke calls for Leia. Or it's a script writing goof! When Lucas did the special edition he probably got the idea from the cut scene but modified it.

EDIT:
Having slept on it, if you treat the script as correct and unmodified order it is a shame there is no scene with Vader with said cape blowing in the wind on the Landing platform seeing the falcon re-approach cloud city. It always felt like they got back there too quick than the time that had passed when they escaped. But again without seeing what scenes were filmed and cut and how the sequence played before editing we won't know how it went or if the scene was even shot. This would have been a far more interesting extra scene than what we got for the special edition version. and more canon to the script and not putting in that horrible line by a JEJ impersonator :)

INTERIOR: CLOUD CITY -- LANDING PLATFORM

VADER: Bring my shuttle.

EXTERIOR: CLOUD CITY-- LANDING PLATFORM

Vader enters the landing platform and stops and watches as the speck
that is the Falcon gets closer.(over shoulder POV upper torso) The wind blows at his cape.
The sound of a shuttle engines landing and lights cross over the platform. Vader's cape makes a flap sound as he sharply turns to the right towards the shuttle off screen.

It just makes you wonder how we ended up with what we did in the special edition given some real simple thought to script inconsistancies on the back of the Falcon is returning not flying away.

I've always preferred the 'Bring my shuttle' line, and have been firmly against the SE additions during the Cloud City escape; but I have, too, always found the cut away from the 'Bring my shuttle' scene to be awkwardly abrupt. So I did prefer the additional shot of Vader walking to a Cloud City landing platform; I felt the visual pacing was improved here. One possibility could be, to keep the 'Bring my shuttle' line and the shot of Vader walking to the landing platform, but paint out his shuttle so that the landing platform is empty (this would be easier, and perhaps more elegant and in keeping with the cinematography of the film, than inserting the Falcon and extra takes of Vader looking towards the Falcon). The score would also not be negatively affected by this, either; I think that would be my ideal sequence for this part of the film.

Yes that was suggested about painting out the shuttle.

Perhaps your right there on the music...But if you "keep bring my shuttle" that is said over different music than "Alert my blah blah blah" I managed to find a sample on DVD active comparisons so I now know where the cues start finally.

At the end of the day I think Ady is not making a bad decision cutting it back to the theatrical version if that is still concrete. It's the script that got me thinking about trying to bridge the time gap of around 4:30 escaping and about 20 seconds to get back to cloud city ok they could have sped back really fast but the idea sprang in from reading the script notes which were a bit fishy.

It also gives Vader a new target to spring his next trap (devious)... Yeah bit of a day dream flamboyant idea but I still think it would have been better than the guff we got in the special editions.

At least the thread is back on topic

The players and the power grid would be.

I imagine that come the big solar flare up we will have more important things to think about like getting the hospitals running and stopping people from starving and freezing to death than isolating and replacing burned out circuits in an optical drive to watch a fan edit or even a special edition of a seventies film.

At least you can hand crank a film.

Anyhoo that ESB:R folks...aint that somethin'?

topdawg193 said:

I've always preferred the 'Bring my shuttle' line, and have been firmly against the SE additions during the Cloud City escape; but I have, too, always found the cut away from the 'Bring my shuttle' scene to be awkwardly abrupt. So I did prefer the additional shot of Vader walking to a Cloud City landing platform; I felt the visual pacing was improved here. One possibility could be, to keep the 'Bring my shuttle' line and the shot of Vader walking to the landing platform, but paint out his shuttle so that the landing platform is empty (this would be easier, and perhaps more elegant and in keeping with the cinematography of the film, than inserting the Falcon and extra takes of Vader looking towards the Falcon). The score would also not be negatively affected by this, either; I think that would be my ideal sequence for this part of the film.

If the were a way to change the line to "PREPARE my shuttle".....then no painting out would be required at all. Just a thought.

I think READY my shuttle sounds better than PREPARE. 

I doubt Ady will want to change it in any case.

It's not so much what Vader says but how he says it.

But I would seriously doubt you could match the agression in the original line which is the point. I really hope that line gets restored without any audio edits.

I'm going to throw in my two cents and say that omitting the shuttle footage is the right decision. The first time the Falcon leaves, our heroes have a clean getaway. Even watching this movie when I was 7 years old, I always thought of Lando's "What about those fighters?" line not to mean that they are currently being chased, but that he knows there must be (or has even seen) TIEs patrolling the city, and if they go back they might get caught.

Vader's "Bring my shuttle" line is meant to say "They think they got away. I'm going to mosey on back to the Executor and catch them since they can't jump to lightspeed." He does not know they are going to double-back, and it works better for him not to see it. He's not in hot pursuit to try to cut them off at the pass. As far as he's concerned, he has plenty of time since they disabled the hyperdrive.

I never felt the need to see his shuttle to know how he got back to the Executor, and the shot interrupts the score and the flow of the scene, which is meant to be focused on our heroes. Darth Vader is bad-ass, we all know it. But I don't think that the flow of the story should be jarred by expositional shots that are nice to see, but ultimately unnecessary. Besides, it's nice to let your own imagination fill in the gaps, something that GL apparently doesn't like us to do.

@bluecardinal

I always thought Vader was angry because he failed to convert Luke.

But since reading the script notes that was not the context and it is more about going after the Falcon. Or perhaps it is a bit of both but if it is because it is about going after the Falcon the that is not clear.

That connection between Vader and his next target he was going after was not shown. Vader was meant to say the line "bring my shuttle" after he spotted the falcon.

Use all the scrap debris to create asteroids! ^_^

FVDnz said:

Wow that's quite a lot of timber!

Ohh Matron.

Ronster said:

I nearly can't argue against this and your point is steadfast and I don't want any changes to crawls for revisited unless Ady decides to make them but...

First film = Star Wars 1979 then became episode 4

Ok no problem 4, 5 and 6 that is the trilogy of the OT.

To get nitpicky, it was just "Star Wars" until the 1981 theatrical re-release. However Lucas must have been planning it for awhile, because it was titled "Episode IV: A New Hope" in the 1979 first edition of "The Art of Star Wars."

Some may misremember it being called that in the "original screenplay" but it's in a totally different font, obviously created just for the art book itself (preceding a reprint of the shooting script).

Of course I wasn't aware of any fans referring to it as "Episode IV: A New Hope" until perhaps the 90's when we were looking forward to the special editions, and even then it was still billed as "Star Wars" just about everywhere (ads, ticket stubs, novels, etc). It seemed like it was just hardcore nerds that started referring to it by episode number in those days.

Off on a tangent now... Movie titles can change based on popular usage. After all, the third TMNT movie was simply called "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III" then suddenly it got the subtitle "Turtles in Time" (like the fourth video game). Then we suddenly got an animated movie called "TMNT!"

Oh good, now we're talking about TMNT.

:-/

That looks awesome! Also, it's huge! Thanks, as always, for all your hard work.