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asterisk8 said:

 

I finished playing a fan-made mod of the first-person shooter Half-Life recently, and I thought of Revisited more than once during my playthrough. Black Mesa: Source took 8 years to make with a team of developers and programmers and mappers working almost around-the-clock. 

That is actually an excellent comparison. I followed BM:S from its inception in 2004ish and after a few years, all the haters and whiners were out in force shouting "Vaporware". But now look at it. That game is a fucking MASTERPIECE. 

Revisited is suffering from exactly the same sort of entitled whining from people who refuse to just be patient. Don't they realise that the longer they wait, the better it's getting?

8 Years and Counting...Lol

I spent 4 weeks Solid about 8 hours a day sometimes more doing a sound Mod for it this summer, you can find my work on it there at the forum...about 200MB and a totally rebalanced and RE-EQ'd soundtrack and new sound effects.

I dig creative projects, but you have to appreciate things take time and you also need to have the time at hand. There is no way I could do this at the moment.

It's Better to give back to people that give to you that is how it works best.

brash_stryker said:

Matticon said:

On another note, maybe for ROTJ:R and ANH:HD you could do a kickstarter campaign?

 

I guess the only issue is that you can't make a profit? Well the easy solution to that is... spend ALL the money!

Matticon.

I think the usual response about funding something like Revisited through Kickstarter has been that it's a bad idea due to the matter of intellectual property.

I, however, completely disagree. Due to it being non profit, I believe it would be allowed, provided the bonuses you provide via each donation tier do not include the actual edit (as this might open a legal can of worms)

A donation of £10 or more, for instance, might get you a Revisited keyring or badge to show your support. Or even just an entry into the prize draw donators already get.

A mid range donation might get you a Tshirt

A mid to high range donation might get you a canvas print of Ady's custom painted cover art.

The highest range donation tier (in the tens of thousands) could consist of a particular prop from the production e.g. The Han in Carbonite plus an 'Executive Producer' credit in the final edit.

These are, of course, only examples, and the amount of tiers/rewards are only limited by the imagination.

As long as you make it emphatically clear it's a not for profit project, I see no reason why you couldn't fund each and every film in the Revisited saga through a single campaign - Revisited has become pretty high profile now. I think after ESB:R is released would be the time for a campaign. 

There have been a few fanfilms funded through Kickstarter, 2 examples of which are below. Neither of these projects were shut down and successfully reached their funding goals:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/125377036/star-trek-continues-webseries?ref=live

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1144130879/star-wars-the-old-republic-revan-fan-film-0?ref=live

Put yourself in adywan's shoes.  Would you be willing to risk it?  I certainly wouldn't.

There should be a thing like kickstarter for this kind of projects: fanfilms

It would surely help most of the community ;-)

@Ronster

on what forum did you upload your soundfiles?

TV's Frink said:

Put yourself in adywan's shoes.  Would you be willing to risk it?  I certainly wouldn't.

Having chatted to Ady earlier about it, I now know edits would potentially stand in a more precarious place legally than fanfilms do as they make use of the existing material rather than making their own.

I feel pretty stupid not to have considered that it's not just the issue of intellectual property, but rather the intention to distribute the original material, altered or not (potentially to people who haven't paid for the official releases).

So no, I wouldn't risk it - though when I posted what I did, I'd wrongly deduced that there wasn't any risk with non-profit projects. I just hadn't considered all the facts, that's all, so I retract what I said :)

I think there is a scope for private fundraising events.

There are a number of Small cinema Hotels in London which you can Hire as a private Event Space. I am quite sure this would be entirely feasible. And they are also independent.

If the model work was also exhibited along side it That would Be Art exhibition / Film project then that could create funds from showing the work.

I guess you would have to still download the original film for the payment to the cinema Hard drive but show the alternative cut.

But there is obviously a cost to Hiring the Space and the facilities and would only work in Major cities. Dropping a tentative date run of a showing to see how many people show interest would give an idea of if it would work?

I doubt there would be any comeback on anything like this at all.

Take Nightbreed the Cabal Cut as an example... They showed this cut in order to raise funds for a full directors cut Blu-ray release of the film and get the missing material cleaned and released. This was by a group called seraphim films.

They achieved their goal and it is coming. and was also announced at comic-con

I am sure there are enough people here with some gusto and sense to know how to go about doing this. OriginalTrilogy.com has a similar sort of message any way enough dreaming. But perhaps if any money made went to releasing the OT theatrical releases on BLU Ray then you have a worthy cause also and keep the edit fund raising separate whilst at the same time gaining the exposure needed to get the donation funds ti do the work.

@brimforge Blackmesasource.com/test chamber/ Revamp sound mod

Savage said:

Having someone dismiss my opinion out of hand was insulting beyond belief. 

You must be new to the internet.

Savage said:

Were people going to be confused that the movie coming in 2002 was not going to be the next chronological episode?  

I nearly can't argue against this and your point is steadfast and I don't want any changes to crawls for revisited unless Ady decides to make them but...

First film = Star Wars 1979 then became episode 4

Ok no problem 4, 5 and 6 that is the trilogy of the OT.

If people in 100 years time decide that they want to watch star wars and start at episode 1 they won't / might not make it to episode IV so really it's not as simple as Godfather part I,II and III and if anything it is confusing.

But I do agree with you too.:P

Jango's Bongo said:

I agree with everybody's points here... except possibly my own.

 

Oh hey now, I've got a question which is on-topic. Remember those matte boxes around tie fighters which can be seen when they pass over a star destroyer (for example) that Ady's doing his best to remove - how is that done? Because if the tie's box is just rotoscoped out and the clean tie placed back on the star destroyer then the box will still be there, right? So is the shot left unrotoscoperized and the area on the star destroyer altered or what?

 

Hmm, yeah I'm pretty sure that question didn't make sense but I'm too feeble minded to try to rephrase it. If anyone actually understood it then my hat is raised to you and if you not only understood it but can answer it then by gosh I'll shake your hand too.

I'm pretty sure that as well as rotoing out the foreground element in question (in this case the Tie Fighter without the black box), a clean background plate/element is created so that doesn't have the box on it either. This might be done by combining different frames - if the box doesn't remain in the same place through all the frames, then that means you can create a 'boxless' complete SD by combining sections from different frames, either via split screen effects or similar in Aftereffects or by using Photoshop.

The project evolved from a DVD based edit like ANH:R to a HD broadcast based edit to a blu-ray based effort.

At each stage things had to be redone and there have been hardware problems and personal tragedies etc.

It's not as if we haven't got anything from the guy since then. He did a very nice HD SE and TPM presentation (before the blu-rays became available with the right colars). He also gave us a rather special despecialised ESB presentation which I watched again a few months back and it's the go to version if you want white snow on Hoth. It's a genuinely interesting alternative colour mix which sparkles like a brand new movie.

I joke with Ady because it's been a long journey and I dare say he's noticed me enough to know that despite his squandering every donation you give on shampoo and hob-knobs, I know him to be a lovely guy who deserves the best hair and biscuits money can buy.

The finished product will be the best Christmas present evar!!

Which Christmas ???

As long as I'm still alive and able to see I don't really care.

Ronster said:

I nearly can't argue against this and your point is steadfast and I don't want any changes to crawls for revisited unless Ady decides to make them but...

First film = Star Wars 1979 then became episode 4

Ok no problem 4, 5 and 6 that is the trilogy of the OT.

If people in 100 years time decide that they want to watch star wars and start at episode 1 they won't / might not make it to episode IV so really it's not as simple as Godfather part I,II and III and if anything it is confusing.

But I do agree with you too.:P

Savage said:

Well done internet. Well done. 

Forget The House, The Internet always wins.

Harmy said:

That I would consider a tragedy. Revisited is great but I really don't think that it should be the version that is viewed a 100 years from now, just as the SE shouldn't be.

There are those that care about film heritage and preservation, and there are those that care about visual continuity (not having a Palpatine that's a woman with monkey eyes in Empire). Me, I care about both. Both the OUT and OT:R should be viewed 100 years from now. 

What we can ALL agree on is that it shouldn't be George's SE, which is what he himself wants to happen.