Star Wars: Episode VII to be directed by J.J. Abrams **NON SPOILER THREAD** — Page 78

Hoth-Nudist said:

Im betting on Ford having action scenes in VII.  Maybe he'll go back to the smugglers' life?  Maybe Solo and Leia arent together with him smuggling again and she with a new life in the jedi order alongside Luke.  I dont envision scenes of Solo clad in a heavy sweater, sitting by some fireplace doing a crossword puzzle while Leia knits a quilt.

I can see a scene where Leia, now married with a new republic politician is in the obligation to ask Han to work again with her, because of his knowledge of some underground organization she needs to contact. He's no general anymore. He's just fixing the Falcon all over again when they meet for the first time in years. He's not that interested in the job but since it's Leia asking...

TMBTM said:

I can see a scene where Leia, now married with a new republic politician is in the obligation to ask Han to work again with her, because of his knowledge of some underground organization she needs to contact. He's no general anymore. He's just fixing the Falcon all over again when they meet for the first time in years. He's not that interested in the job but since it's Leia asking...

You know that sounds like a great idea, it moves away from the softer dumber Han in ROTJ to a Han that would never settle down, he'd likely have a kid with Leia, but he'd have moved on....bit like Indy really

J

If anything, I think Han, Luke and Leia should have lived  more or less separate lives since the rebellion's complete victory. That does not mean they had no adventures together after JEDI, but at one point in their life, they took separate roads. The audience should feel the same as the characters when they meet again after so much time. (Can you even imagine Luke telling Han: "The last time we met... It's like it was a long time ago, in a galaxy far away!" Okay, a little too on the nose, haha)  What I would hate is the story focusing on some of their kids first and get a "oh, shit, here comes the old folks!" scene, where Han, Luke and Leia would appear all together on screen, like that. The characters needs at least a little story arc together.

Mostly agreeing with TMBTM. I almost wish that Leia and Han weren't even going to be in these new films, I'm not really interested in their 'family.' What would be more interesting, however, is if they didn't make a family. To me Han doesn't seem like the kind of guy that would get married (he seems even less likely than Indy to commit to a relationship, honestly), and he most certainly does not seem like the type of guy who would have kids. 

Han and Leia's relationship worked in ESB. They're a rather boring pair after that.

I always viewed their romance as the result of tension and infatuation. It was made to be temporary, in other words.

Here's a thought:

In spirit of keeping the new trilogy true to the originals, wouldn't it be wonderful if Kathleen Kennedy hired people like Ady and Harmy as consultants for the new films? 

Just re-watched VH1's 'When Star Wars Rulled the World' and was reminded that people walked out of the cinemas and re-joined the queues to see the film again....hopefully that roller coaster ingredient is included in the re-writes.....something that will appeal to everyone, not nerdy like the prequels.

JJ successfully moved the Star Trek movies away from the nerds into the main cinema audience

J

Jaitea said:

Just re-watched VH1's 'When Star Wars Rulled the World' and was reminded that people walked out of the cinemas and re-joined the queues to see the film again....hopefully that roller coaster ingredient is included in the re-writes.....something that will appeal to everyone, not nerdy like the prequels.

JJ successfully moved the Star Trek movies away from the nerds into the main cinema audience

J

Yeah, I think JJ's the man to do it. ST09 was one of the few films I saw in theaters three times - not because it was one of the best films I saw in theaters, but because it was one of the most exhilarating. If JJ can bring that to SW, he's on the right track.

Re: Han. Yeah, people change, of course, I get that. Of course Han's not going to be wild and reckless 30 years later. But some people just aren't the type to settle down. Some people never get married and have kids. I believe Han is one of those people. 

I could almost see a Leia and Lando marriage make more sense at the end of the day. Unfortunately, VII's going to have expectations to live up to. At the end of VI, Han and Leia are together and happy, presumably forever. If they're separated without explanation at the start of VII, that might not work so well. Yet another reason to be annoyed with ROTJ, I suppose.

I see Han as a criminal. At no time was he ever depicted as being anything other than that.  He wasn't going to college on the side to become a paralegal.  He wasn't hoping to one day become a writer.  He was a 30-40 year old man who smuggled drugs and other contraband.  I can totally see his character arc going in the same direction as, say, Jax on Sons of Anarchy, especially if the thing with Leia didn't work out.  By the time he is 70 (where he kind of would be if Ep VII is written to the actual actor's ages) Han might be a glitterstim kingpin or working for the much more entrepreneurial and driven Lando. Not because he hasn't matured or grown, but just because that is the life he knows. 

Anchorhead said:

Jaitea said:

JJ successfully moved the Star Trek movies away from the nerds into the main cinema audience

Speaking as a Star Trek nerd;  To me, he did both.  I had said goodbye to Trek because I was tired of seeing Data sing show tunes, while the crew discussed the Prime Directive and wedding decorations.

Abrams gave me back Star Trek.  He gave me tension, Kirk being an arrogant ass, and Spock irritating McCoy. The fact that the non-nerds liked it is just icing on the cake.

It certainly was, and speaking as a Star Wars nerd what i was trying to say was it would be great if the new Star Wars film was appealing to everyone...that everybody would want to see it for the ride

J

ray_afraid said:

About Han... everyone realizes that people change, right? That people grow up and mature and "settle down" and leave their wild pasts behind them? To keep Han the same character we met in Star Wars seems to discredit the characters arc. I don't wanna see a Han who is still an wild, free and reckless 30 years latter. I'm probably alone on that though.

I very much agree. that's why I said in my little story that Han is not a General anymore and he would not be that interested in working for the republic. I would not see him as a bored old man, but someone who left the past behind, is happy with his everyday life but is forced to get back because of Leia.

That said this sort of story arc could also work if Han is now an important member of the republic. He did not fly with the Falcon in years. But somehow IS bored with this safe life. And when he is in the obligation to fight again, he just jump on the occasion.

JJ Trek is pretty awful.

All the homemade cheese of Star Trek IV or Nemesis but so cynically marketed.

It's like catching an beloved eccentric uncle selling kisses down at the docks.

Spock's "KHAN!!!" yell is up there with Jar Jar and Prometheus in my book as insults to my senses. I took it personally, like someone broke wind and dared to charge me for it.

He understands Trek like Schumacher understood Batman or Lucas understands his own creation.

But he makes money though, I guess that counts.

I liked his Trek movies a lot, so I'm good ;)

Well done you :-D

I thought this was the J.J Abrams thread :-P

I would have gone and seen "Into Darkness", but Khan's casting was so bizarre as to dissuade me.