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CP3S said:

Owning a PS3 and having used it very little, I decided I needed to check out some of these exclusives that PS3 fans are always on about.

I've yet to try Drakes Fortune Myself, but I really loved Uncharted 2. IMO, the best exclusive is MGS4 though. I chose a PS3 over a dedicated Blu-ray player based on that game and LittleBigPlanet.

People love Uncharted because of it's "cinematic" gameplay based on what I've heard people say about it. I like it's puzzles, humor and storytelling and obviously the cinematic approach. I absolutely loved the I could play Last of Us with no HUD. Been to long since I played Uncharted to say if the HUD goes away after a while. 

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The Resistance series has always been crappy. I only own a 360 and even I know that. =P

Have you looked into Journey? That's another one people always rave about.

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valinkrai said:

Still have a unfinished ... Bioshock ... sitting around waiting for me to play.

 IGNORED.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

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xhonzi said:

valinkrai said:

Still have a unfinished ... Bioshock ... sitting around waiting for me to play.

 IGNORED.

Waiting for the right time. It's tentatively up next after I finish New Vegas. Trying decide if I should put it off until I have read Atlas Shrugged.

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The best time to read Atlas Shrugged is pretty much never. You're not going to get more out of the game by having read Atlas Shrugged or any of Ayn Rand's other books first. Yeah, it is a dystopian using a failed objectivist society as the backdrop, which is completely awesome, but as long as you have some grasp on the concepts of objectivism you're not going to miss out on that angle of the story.

Not to dis on Atlas Shrugged, it is just kind of a long tedious read, and it really isn't that great.

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CP3S said:

The best time to read Atlas Shrugged is pretty much never. You're not going to get more out of the game by having read Atlas Shrugged or any of Ayn Rand's other books first. Yeah, it is a dystopian using a failed objectivist society as the backdrop, which is completely awesome, but as long as you have some grasp on the concepts of objectivism you're not going to miss out on that angle of the story.

Not to dis on Atlas Shrugged, it is just kind of a long tedious read, and it really isn't that great.

Ah. I was planning to read it anyway, as I have libertarian leanings figured it might be good to do before Bioshock. If it doesn't really require more than basic knowledge of objectivism then, I'll just start Bioshock and do Atlas Shrugged another day.

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ray_afraid said:


WATER TEMPLE! You've haunted me since 1998. Now I've returned and you're still the same ol' soggy bitch you were back then. "Go do this! Now come back and do this! Now go do that! And come back and do this again!" AARG!
Supposedly the 3DS version has color coding to make it easier to figure out. I don't think I made it that far before my eyes fell out.

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doubleofive said:

 

ray_afraid said:


WATER TEMPLE! You've haunted me since 1998. Now I've returned and you're still the same ol' soggy bitch you were back then. "Go do this! Now come back and do this! Now go do that! And come back and do this again!" AARG!
Supposedly the 3DS version has color coding to make it easier to figure out. I don't think I made it that far before my eyes fell out.

 

It is indeed color coded and market. You can also set the Iron boots to the touch screen, which makes the temple super easy, especially if you're like me and did a low heart run.

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valinkrai said:

doubleofive said:

 

ray_afraid said:


WATER TEMPLE! You've haunted me since 1998. Now I've returned and you're still the same ol' soggy bitch you were back then. "Go do this! Now come back and do this! Now go do that! And come back and do this again!" AARG!
Supposedly the 3DS version has color coding to make it easier to figure out. I don't think I made it that far before my eyes fell out.

 

It is indeed color coded and market. You can also set the Iron boots to the touch screen, which makes the temple super easy, especially if you're like me and did a low heart run.

Well, that would be nice and handy. I'd love to play the 3DS remake, but it's the only 3DS game I want, so I have pass for now.

Anyway, Water Temple is behind me. It's the only part of the game that seems more tedious than fun.

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doubleofive said:

Supposedly the 3DS version has color coding to make it easier to figure out. I don't think I made it that far before my eyes fell out.

 

Yeah, I play my friends 3DS every now and then, when I first used it I gawked at the 3D for about five minutes, then got tired of it and turned it off. Anytime I use it I just leave the 3D off until I see something in the game and and think, "I wonder what that looks like in 3D?" Turn it on for a second, then it goes right back off. My friend says he always leave it off too.

 

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CP3S said:


doubleofive said:
Supposedly the 3DS version has color coding to make it easier to figure out. I don't think I made it that far before my eyes fell out.


Yeah, I play my friends 3DS every now and then, when I first used it I gawked at the 3D for about five minutes, then got tired of it and turned it off. Anytime I use it I just leave the 3D off until I see something in the game and and think, "I wonder what that looks like in 3D?" Turn it on for a second, then it goes right back off. My friend says he always leave it off too.
I did the same thing. Then I realized that I hadn't played it in the last 8 months and sold it.

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The best time to read Atlas Shrugged is pretty much never. You're not going to get more out of the game by having read Atlas Shrugged or any of Ayn Rand's other books first. Yeah, it is a dystopian using a failed objectivist society as the backdrop, which is completely awesome, but as long as you have some grasp on the concepts of objectivism you're not going to miss out on that angle of the story.

Not to dis on Atlas Shrugged, it is just kind of a long tedious read, and it really isn't that great.

I responded in the Bioshock thread.

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/BioShock-1-2-and-Infinite-and-SPOILERS/post/656205/#TopicPost656205

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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And... we're back.  Here's a bone from the Bioshock tread:

I've been []playing [] on PC- []  I've alternated betwixt mouse, xbox controller, and laptop touchpad.  It's a lot easier to hit the [targets] with the mouse than the other two...  that does make [the enemies] easier to take out.

When I was a PC gamer I always played on my laptop and never mucked around with attaching an external mouse, so I got really good with WASD and touchpad controls for shooters, which most people say is the worst possible combo ever. Maybe that is why I appreciate game controllers so much, they are just much more simple than a touchpad and I haven't used an actual mouse for gaming since I was 13.  

So... the Xbox was the first console I ever owned.  I played my share of Atari, NES, SNES, Genesis, etc... at relatives' and friends' houses, but I was always a PC gamer.  Upon reaching 'adulthood' and not having the time/money to keep a killer gaming PC going, I switched to Xbox and have been pretty happy with the decision.  As the the Xbox 360 grew long in the tooth, and I was looking for more customization options than consoles typically offer, I've been dabbling in returning to my PC roots.

A lot of PC gamers find console controllers to be, at best, a huge barrier for entry and, at worst, an unacceptable step back in control fidelity.  I got over the learning curve some time ago, and really enjoy controllers, but will admit that the mouse is a much better aiming device. 

However, the keyboard still sucks.

I played a bit of Walking Dead on Xbox, and then ended up with the full game on PC through one of the humble bundle deals.  I was playing it with touchpad/keyboard, and found the keyboard controls to be quite terrible.  Fortunately, you can play with a controller- even the 360 controller if you like, but goodness the keyboard! 

When there are multiple actions to take on an item on the screen, they will appear numbered in the lower corner.  Whatever is action 1 (look at, probably) will default unless you press another number.  A click with the mouse will cause the currently selected action to take place on the currently indicated object.  If you select action #2, and then move the cursor briefly off of the object and then back to it, action #1 will be selected by default. 

Whereas the 360 controller assigns different buttons to the actions and the user just presses the button corresponding to the action they want when the cursor is over the item.

Similarly, I've been messing with Bioshock Infinite, Bioshock 2, Borderlands 2, System Shock 2, Deus Ex: HR... and maybe one or two others. 

Maybe I'm just a wimp, but keeping track of c for crouch, r for reload, e for use, v for melee, z for iron sights, etc... seems like a lot of work.  When I left PC gaming, there weren't so many keys for the standard shooter.  I think the convenience of controllers is what made those actions standard... and the PC market offers those same actions on the keyboard, but it's not exactly a good fit for that control scheme. 

I used to play space sims on PC, and they had a lot of buttons... but this is a walking/shooting simulator... so the complexity to me seems odd.

I've seen some funky controllers that try to replace the keyboard:

My first reaction is "that's really stupid" but my second reaction is "Can it be any worse than the keyboard?"

That's all, I guess.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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In other news:

What?!?  HD remake of PoP2:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ubisoft.princeofpersia.shadowandflame.ggp

 

Also, I picked up Antichamber on Steam for $2.  It's really good.  Very hard.  Very not hand holdy.

 

Also... I'm on Steam.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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xhonzi said:

Also... I'm on Steam.

Me too!!!

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C3PX:

System Shock 2 is now on Steam for Windows and Mac, I plan on getting it and beating it sometime, but I haven't felt like spending the money lately. Maybe it will go cheap in the next big Steam sale (it's only $10 now, I think).

For those who like cheap games and Steam... and went camping during the Steam Summer Sale, or something equally ridiculous...

Anyways- you can get pretty good deals from this thread on CAG:

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/topic/307615-steam-group-buy-and-gift-requests-thread-v2-read-rules-before-posting/page-226

There's a ratings system, so you can see if they're good traders.  I've made maybe 10 purchases from these guys and have yet to get burned.

A lot of the going rates at maybe Steam Summer Sale price +10%.  Sometimes it's even less than that.

 

Also, on the deals front: if you're a PC gamer and haven't checked out the EA Humble Bundle, on sale now, then you're dumb.

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Decided to try out this CAG forum nonsense of yours.

I just got a 1600 ms point game I've wanted for a long time, but have been unwilling to pay 1600 ms points for, for $5.

Whoa! I'll be wandering back to that place from time to time.

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We should start an OT.com Steam group. =P

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Haven't been on my Xbox in a while. Got on it for a bit today. What is going on???

Now that the thing it at the end of its life, Microsoft decides to start changing a lot of those really annoying crappy things we've all come to expect and accept over the past decade? No more use of MS points? Now you can actually just pay the cost of downloadable games and content, instead of having to buy fix increments, usually resulting in making you buy slightly more than needed? That would have been awesome a few years ago!

Now you get free games with Xbox LIVE? I've had a live subscription pretty much constantly since 2008, never a single thing free. Now I've decided I don't care about it anymore, and they are throwing all sorts of things at subscribers for free now it seems. They no longer charge developers tens of thousands of dollars to post an update?

I bought Bully: Scholarship Edition for under $4 just a bit ago. A real four dollars charged strait to my card without having to spend $5 in MS points. I never would have imagined Xbox games on demand costing under five bucks. Even for games that you can pick up at gamestop for $5 or so still cost $19.99 on there. Seems like it bottoms out at that point.

If they keep this sort of thing up, and do sales where games are 80% off more often, they might actually start competing with Steam sales. Yeah, I'm not holding my breath either. 

Still, when I logged onto my Xbox today, I felt like I had somehow fallen through into some parallel universe. Was kind of tempted to Bing search Firefly season 2, or rent the SW prequels and see if they were any good. 

I guess Microsoft is starting to realize they better start being competitive.

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Yeah Microsoft has been doing a lot in the last few months to prop up their image after the XBOX ONE announcement fiasco.

But even before that they experimented with crazy sales this past winter and I scored Assassin's Creed II for insanely cheap. Then they up and gave it away free. Ah well.

There was also this: Microsoft hires the man who made Steam great, signals renewed interest in PC gaming

Personally, I'm still waiting for the prices to drop on the last two DLC releases for Mass Effect III. Even though the ending was the worst travesty in gaming history.

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Just bought an Amiga 500 (complete with power supply, mouse and monitor) at a flea market for 30 bucks! Now I need to find out why it won't boot. No screen, just power lights on.