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Ryan McAvoy said:

Call me crazy but I'd have one of those over an X-Wing anyday.

So, is it Crazy McAvoy or Ryan Crazy? ;)

I do love the Americana that was put into the Naboo fighters design though. It's something I overlook when listing what I like about the Prequels. So now there are two (of them) 1- the design of the Pod racers and 2- the design Naboo fighter.

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Nope. X-wings all the way. Crappy Naboo star fighter. 

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I think that might have worked. Crow as Jar Jar Binks. I doubt it would have ended up the Caribbean caricature it did.

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doubleofive said:

I think that might have worked. Crow as Jar Jar Binks. I doubt it would have ended up the Caribbean caricature it did.

Caribbean caricature? Jar Jar didnt sound like no Rastafarian to me. Far from it. Just sounded like a dumb, lame attempt at a comedic, American talking fish. 

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doubleofive said:

I think that might have worked. Crow as Jar Jar Binks. I doubt it would have ended up the Caribbean caricature it did.

JarJar didn't sound Caribbean at all. It was the fact that he sounded like a horribly carricatured slave from the deep South.

"Meesa yousa" sounded scarily like "Yesah massa". Plus the whole pattern of the speech was uncomfortable minstrel like, I'm sure Ahmed Best didn't mean to do it. Just like the guys that probably spent months and years designing the Hitler Kettle didn't mean to do it...

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I wonder what Gungan gangsters are like. I bet they listen to bad music, wear lots of jewelery, aim their blasters sideways, and sound even more unintelligible than average Gungans.

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ray_afraid said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

Call me crazy but I'd have one of those over an X-Wing anyday.

So, is it Crazy McAvoy or Ryan Crazy? ;)

I do love the Americana that was put into the Naboo fighters design though. It's something I overlook when listing what I like about the Prequels. So now there are two (of them) 1- the design of the Pod racers and 2- the design Naboo fighter.

I did not realize how cool the Naboo Fighter design was until I walked through the 1920s airplanes at the Air & Space Museum in Washington, DC.

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I like the look of the Naboo Fighters but I don't like the lack of thought behind the droid slot.....I mentioned it here

 

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Why did the Jedi design a fighter that required an Astro-Droid but was so low to the ground that the Astro-Droid couldn't get out (Except by using it's rocket boosters)?.................

Some of the designs of the Prequel craft were pretty good,.....but the Droid slots don't make sense on any of them, the Naboo fighters show clearly that the hole for R2's head is on a tube which has no provision for R2's legs/shoulders.....the cross section explination demonstrates that his head extends away from his body (Inspector Gadget style)....but then the ship doesn't have enough depth for his body.....also the hole for his head doesn't allow for the holoprojectors

How the designer made compromises like this is beyond me.....and did it again for the ROTS Starfighter....there is no room for an R2 unit in there, his lower body & feet magically disappear into the dimension warping droid slot......balls up

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Ryan McAvoy said:

So many things logicaly wrong with the Naboo Starfighter and the hanger. Like it is physicaly impossible for them to land back into those gaps down the side, but of course it is also impossible for them to land full stop.

But the design is so godamn beautiful that I don't care. Call me crazy but I'd have one of those over an X-Wing anyday.

Who's to say they have to land in those alcoves? Maybe they just land in the hanger and some machine puts them back in their spots for storage. Naboo is depicted as a peaceful planet that doesn't do a lot of fighting.

In 1999 I had already outgrown playing with action figures, but I still found myself going out and adding the Naboo fighter to my collection. It is the only Episode I related toy I bought.

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CP3S said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

So many things logicaly wrong with the Naboo Starfighter and the hanger. Like it is physicaly impossible for them to land back into those gaps down the side...

Who's to say they have to land in those alcoves? Maybe they just land in the hanger...

But as I said they can't land at all.

Granted they could belly land like a stricken B-17 into the hard marble hanger bay floor and the pilot could rush out before it catches fire. Then some astro droids could use those angry red penis hoses that line the hanger bay to put the flames out. Then a robot arm could pickup the wreck and put it back into the alcove. Maybe that's why the Naboo don't have enough pilots to man all the ships... because 50% of them don't survive the landings.

Perhaps to further speculate... that's why the great Ric Ollie doesn't return to Eps II&III. He probably died trying to land after knocking out the Droid ship. Also maybe Anakin's shorter hair at the end of TPM was less a Jedi Padawan buzz cut and more that his hair was singed off in the fireball on impact.

Still seems like a minor design flaw though to me. Maybe because they are "a peaceful race" they've never had to use the fighters before and nobody realised that they couldn't land them.

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As rubbish as it is... Anakin forgot to put the landing gear down... Of course they have legs... Or don't they?

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timdiggerm said:

I did not realize how cool the Naboo Fighter design was until I walked through the 1920s airplanes at the Air & Space Museum in Washington, DC.

I know! Look at this photo of the Nboo Starfighter in the flesh...

^ I would have just stood there in awe for about 15 minutes.

Check this moded kit out...

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Ronster said:

As rubbish as it is... Anakin forgot to put the landing gear down... Of course they have legs... Or don't they?

No they don't have a landing gear as seen in AOTC. They just hover by f**king magic.

As to the landing back in Theed, the Astrodroid could concievably hover his pilot's fighter slowly backwards into the alcoves. So it would then dock with the two front support clamps and the rear aperture (Both shown below). Then a member of the ground crew would have to fetch a ladder so the pilot could get out.

Also it's never explained how come all the fighters except the one that Anakin jumps in, have already got Astrodroids sitting in them. Or how this (Shown below) pilot managed to get into his Fighter...

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Well if I gave them legs they would have 2 saber tooth shaped feet at the front and one at the back...

Dig it?

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Ryan McAvoy said:

But as I said they can't land at all.

You can thank Doug Chiang for that. Leave it to George to hire the guy who takes pride in claiming that after he first saw Star Wars he ran home to redesign all the ships to his own liking. Have never liked any of Doug Chiang's Star Wars work. Not the ships and especially not the droids.

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Tobar said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

But as I said they can't land at all.

You can thank Doug Chiang for that. Leave it to George to hire the guy who takes pride in claiming that after he first saw Star Wars he ran home to redesign all the ships to his own liking. Have never liked any of Doug Chiang's Star Wars work. Not the ships and especially not the droids.

Phew. I thought I was the only one who wasn't particularly enamoured with the Naboo starfighter design. 

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Tobar said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

But as I said they can't land at all.

You can thank Doug Chiang for that. Leave it to George to hire the guy who takes pride in claiming that after he first saw Star Wars he ran home to redesign all the ships to his own liking. Have never liked any of Doug Chiang's Star Wars work. Not the ships and especially not the droids.

"Have never liked any of Doug Chiang's Star Wars work"

MADNESS, shear madness I say! How dare you sir, withdraw your comments or I shall seek satisfaction!

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I like Chiang's skills as an artist (personally, I feel he's the only artist to work on the PT whose paintings have a very McQuarriesque look and feel to them) but I still have to say that doesn't necessarily make the designs he's come up with stellar in and of themselves (I do have a fondness for the silver starcruisers, though, and the overall look of he had for Obi-Wan).

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I'll be happy if the only thing the selling of Star Wars to Disney gives us is this image...

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Tobar said:

Leave it to George to hire the guy who takes pride in claiming that after he first saw Star Wars he ran home to redesign all the ships to his own liking.

Yeah, that bit from that "making of" webisode where he talks about how he'd draw the X-Wing the way he thought it should look, really left me scratching my head.  THIS is the guy you choose to design your new SW movies???

Anyone remember different camera angles from ROTJ?