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I understand that and I agree.... My point was that they spoke quite a lot in ANH esb they really did not speak at all and then in Jedi that start talking again....

I was merely trying to say a subtle reminder of what they were and are to become again would connect the dots

i.e. beings that react and that have a voice without sounding cheap and as you quite rightly put across not spouting crap.... But something rather than nothing and done tastefully could make them atleast feel a bit more like they were in ANH.

Or do you think the storm troopers are the best in empire the ones that do not talk?

Look it is not a big deal to me it is just an abservation the best storm troopers are undoubtably in a new hope are they not?

Adding dialogue to the stormtroopers in ESB, to me, is one of those "Let's add something for the sake of it". That's what Lucas has been doing since 1997 and we all know how those changes suck on every single level.

ROTJ Vader's new "NOOO" anyone?

So, no.

Fortunately for us, Ady actually knows what he's doing and what needs tweaking and what doesn't. Unlike Good ol' George.

I may not agree with 0.01% of his decisions, but in the end 99.99% of ESB:R will be the best incarnation of Ep V. No doubt, blue SD bridge or not. ;)

I think you just quoted one of the worst audio edits in history to make audio edits in generall be seen as a bad idea... Unfortunately it is in star wars.

But the key word was subtle.... Not bull in a china shop lol

Ohriginal ref youtube vid.... This is a good example of subtle audio editibg... I seen your revenge of the turrets too.... And i thibk the one from jedi throne room that vader destroys the control station as luke leaps away....

Some good ideas and subtle...

I dont have much time at the moment but if i get a chance to look in to any fleshed out yet subtle audio ideas for storm troopers i will post something up.... I just think it is a bit of a shame and readily admit that it is awkward and could feel forced.... But when i get a chance i will have a look and if i find anything good i will post it up....

SSWR also did some good audio edits that are noteworthy just as bens hut in ANH:R by Ady was much better than the original

Ronster said:

I think you just quoted one of the worst audio edits in history to make audio edits in generall be seen as a bad idea... Unfortunately it is in star wars.

haha yes, I went to the extreme, but only to make a point about adding stuff just for the sake of it. ;)

I don't know, adding a word or a phrase or two during the freezing chamber or while they chase Leia could, in theory work. I'll give you that but going by what Ady has done so far I don't see it happening.

I think there was talk a while ago about adding some chatter to the rouge pilots during the Hoth battle if I remember correctly... Don't really know if I just imagined that or it happened, and if so, what Ady thought about it.

And just thinking about it -and going a bit off topic, sorry - The scenes added during the DS battle in ANH:R (New TIE fighters) make the rebel pilots go very silent all of the sudden for a long time. I'm used to it now, but it is a bit awkward, especially with how talkative they are during the whole attack. Don't know if it will be tweaked or even if it's possible for ANH:RHD or whatever it's gonna be called. heh.

But the key word was subtle.... Not bull in a china shop lol

FWIW, The Mythbusters busted that one. Turns out bulls are quite careful in a china shop! :D

What is even stranger is that terence mcgovern (storm trooper voice actor)

Did an episode of mythbusters.... Was it the same one with the bull in said china shop... heh that would be too weird.

Or did you do that on purpose?

I've never noticed any glaring dialogue problems (or lack of dialogue) in ESB, though it's been a while since I've watched it. I do agree with Ronster's point that the voice that precedes C3P0 getting blasted sounds nothing like a Stormtrooper, but I just assumed they did that so that we would have no idea what person or creature shot him. When Chewie fixes him and he starts babbling about Stormtroopers, we're all like, "Sure would have been nice if you could have shared that yesterday!"

I'm not suggesting that the voice they used was the right way to handle it, but I always just accepted that scenario from a storytelling perspective.

EDIT: Thinking about it some more, you could replace the line "Who are you?" with some kind of short growl (still sounding like it could be human). The ST grunts off-screen, and C3PO's reaction tells the rest. We can say his helmet's off, which is why it wouldn't sound processed through a speaker like we're used to hearing. It's a little detail, but that's one way in which it could be addressed if it really bothers an editor.

@monroville the radio chatter which does occur is another cock up...

I pointed it out earlier....

Luke to wedge " i lost my rear gunner you'll have to take the shot"

Radio chatter luke to wedge in wedge cockpit " i'll cover you"

Luke "set your harpoon and follow me on the next pass"

How will luke cover wedge if wedge is following and he has lost rear gunner?

If luke said i'll follow you it would make sense...

Also bear in mind this is the cockpit shot where it looks as if the snowspeeder will hit a rebel running away from smoke...

Basically i called for a cut or alternate exterior shot on this but to remove i'll cover you line as then the dialogue also makes sense... Luke says i'll cover you again moments later so another good reason for the chop i felt

Ronster said:

What is even stranger is that terence mcgovern (storm trooper voice actor)

Did an episode of mythbusters.... Was it the same one with the bull in said china shop... heh that would be too weird.

Or did you do that on purpose?

Not at all. I didn't even know who he was or that he was on MB. Yep, weird.

Because Luke's is going distract the walker while Wedge comes from behind to launch a tow cable. It makes perfect sense.

@005

Yeah that is how i interpreted it which means that luke is flying "point"

If he has a rear gunner covering wedge is possible as he does not it does not make sense

If wedge was flying "point" luke would trail and provide cover

Coming back to more simple  issues with ESB, I was just watching the film and was reminded of something that always kind of bugged me. Escaping Bespin, Leia points up and says "Star Destroyer!" but when we see the shot of the Executor out the window, it's really not anywhere near where Leia's pointing. 

Does Ady plan on modifying that out-the-window shot to show the Executor to be more above the Falcon?

Ronster said:

Because Luke's is going distract the walker while Wedge comes from behind to launch a tow cable. It makes perfect sense.

@005

Yeah that is how i interpreted it which means that luke is flying "point"

If he has a rear gunner covering wedge is possible as he does not it does not make sense

If wedge was flying "point" luke would trail and provide cover

I think if Wedge were doing the run on his own there would be more chance of him being picked out by the advancing Walkers....with Luke leading the way & being the decoy, it increased the chance of Wedge doing his run successfully

J

It would be fun to have Vader's ship drop onto the base with a thud (but maybe in another edit).

I was talking with somone today who has made a short film and is hoping to release it at frightfest... independanrly funded too... We got on the subject of older films and how new films are planned and formulated and older films were more off the cuff and ambiguous.

Their ambiguity is part of their charm.... So although that was my idea about the shuttle and the troops i fully respect revisited for not taking that onboard but however i hope my energy and enthusiasm rubs off on you and 005 i think you do a great job too....

We all want to make the magic happen and i think this thread has more energy than it has had for a long time