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Ryan McAvoy said:

FVDnz said:

About the Easter Egg with a bunch of Nooooooo's, I say do it lol.  Just thinking about Vader when Luke falls will be bloody hilarious!

And speaking on the subject of Wampas, wouldn't it have been cool if Ady and Co.  recreated that deleted scene to take out some Stormtroopers etc.  Could even hire that Vader actor to get a little more involved too.

My dream is Disney doing a seemlessly branched Blu-Ray boxset of the OT from a brandnew new 4K/wetgate/70mm/allthatjazz scan. It could be branched into 3 versions:

1. Absolutely untouched versions.

2. Adywan style "Fixed" versions that are improved at a technical level but not fundamentaly changed.

3. A new fully pimped out 'Super Special Edition' with every single deleted scene put in, cleaned up, re-scored and redubbed. The whole show. Hell re-do all the special effects from scratch while your at it.

Think that package would please everybody. It's not beyond the wit of man.

My Blade Runner and Avatar boxsets have got 3 seemlessly-branched versions, result. Also my 10x Star Trek movie boxset has two cuts of every film branched for my optional enjoyment (Ditto my Alien(s) boxset). My Star Trek OS Blu-Rays have two branched versions of every episode, updated or original (Your choice).

Probably too much to hope for.

 

As I understand it Disney only has sequel rights. Not sure they can mess with the current films.

 

If that's true, my hopes are wrecked for having a new reimagined prequel trilogy.

 

adywan said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

As long as it isn't adding an extra shot of Vader looking down at luke falling and going "Noooooooooooooooo!".

Hmm, now you have given me an idea.........

 

;)

It would be funny to see this if there was a new promotional trailer for ESB Revisited later in the year. People are really enjoying the trailer then bam! Vader looking at luke falling and going "Noooooooooo!". It would be a nice way to do some Lucas trollin'. ;-)

I think you are right about the camera trickery employed in the scene Asteroid...

I have also wondered about the arm swipe thats been reversed (played normally and roto in) could be used to show a light sabre coming in to frame briefly before we see the shot of the arm fall on the floor severed to make it more visible what is happening...?

I think your right it looks weird the shot but it is passable. I totally noticed it.

The shot prior to this one is worse I think (only my opinion so don't bash me)

I was wondering if it could be zoomed and do a pan or something to make it look better or just to lose this one perhaps....Not sure if this one is specific to the SE or not or it contradicts the SE additions?

as it actually seems like he is approaching from a different point when we first see him loom into frame when luke cuts himself down.

sorry to say it but although the wampa cave is iconic I think it is perhaps the worst scene in ESB after watching it a lot of times it fell apart in many ways and I am normally pretty lenient with stuff...(special edition mind)

I don't hate it at all, just would actually love to see it work a lot better in general

That also said I have not seen the GOUT of ESB in so many years now but I do miss the shadow on the wall and hope that makes it back in for revisited.

I have a bit of a hazy recollection I know the original version up until luke cuts himself down and then it all goes a bit iffy.

It just goes to show you the damage that get's done by changing something and only serving up that one version for a long period of time.

I believe you it's been butchered, and I know it's basically been cocked up for the SE.

Really Glad to hear that one is going... So I am on a similar page at least...

As for the Music and Sound suggestions, although I can not remember the whole state of the original version.. After watching the scene with your color correction so many times, I kept asking myself what is it... Even though it's not the original version or "your proper version" what is it that is killing this scene in terms of my emotional response.

I can not remember how the original was scored but I seem to remember a rise when we see the glimpse go past the hole in the cave wall of the wampa. but the fan fare is still there.

I work in Audio Visual for live events, and I come from a music background and started becoming involved in an amatuer level at 16 I am now 36 and make a humble living off of sound and video projection although not top of the draw sound engineer I don't do concerts or music biz I mainly do corporate stuff.

In my opinion the sound is wrong  not in terms of how it sounds but the emotions it evokes... And also in terms of basic monster rules it's better to not to hear him until he needs to be heard. A more silent cave would be a better way to go... And keep the monster a little more mysterious... Giving the scene a bit of time to breathe. Also I think Luke should take the back seat on the music front... We are in the Wampa's Lair it should be focused on him and not about lukes heroics

It's up to you what you do Adywan, I don't have a problem... I do however want for it like you to be more like the original... But better and that does not mean doing my ideas but what ever it takes to make it better than even the original...

I think it's fair comment... I do hope you have a play with the sound in this scene and see what comes... Sound is everything when it comes to monsters... But I urge you to have a go yourself with it and see what comes. 

Ady has stated how it's going to be. Multiple times now.

Without even watching the original you still insist in coming back with more suggestions backed by your vague recollection of the original scene.

Input has always been a big part of these edits, but sometimes it comes to a point where it's just too much for a single little thing and begins to go in circles, and that happened here a while ago. I honestly think it's great you're so passionate about the Wampa sequence, but seriously, it's time to move on from discussion on it.

Let.

It.

Go.

ok I will meditate on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5blbv4WFriM

I haven't researched it, but in light of Mark Hamills accident at the filming of "Empire", he had plastic surgery I believe and therefore the wampa attack scene was made ?

or was it always in the draft/script as a plot point ?

Always wondered how the story would have gone, if Hamill didn't crash, and the wampa(s) were just a later sidenote, not a starting scene ...

I think the Wampa's were meant to feature more heavily (deleted scene) which was in the original script which got cut for obvious reasons.

I think you are right that to avoid halting filming all together the Wampa cave scene was created so they could film Mark Hamill and his injuries as a way to explain why he had all the cuts on his face. And to get the location shoot done. But it was in the original script but was altered slightly for marks injuries.

There also seemed to be a sequence where Luke uses his Blaster after the cave?... Wether it was to shoot a probe droid or at the Wampa still pursuing even though he just had his arm chopped off... Or perhaps he nearly shoots Han who was coming to rescue him.... Someone on here might know though I have no idea.

I wonder if this footage will ever get released... or is it in Jambee Davdars building empire?

Trying to be helpfull found some good mattes from superman returns check these.

And this Finemolds' 1/72 scale Y-wing  on a ice field hmmmm...

Is that the same models Ady is using? simply because I remember the scale factor... They look really good when put into a backdrop

this is the guys photo stream

https://www.flickr.com/photos/avanaut/

IIRC the story is that Mark Hamill had a car accident in between IV and the filming of V starting and the wampa attack was a device to facilitate this.

Jeez, there's a thread all about this on Snopes.  I'll let the big boys hash this one out.

http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=75;t=001029;p=0

I'd imagine something like the Wampa attack might have happened even if Mark hadn't improved his face with a car crash.

Wampas are basically Yeti (just as Wookiees are Sasquatch) and the attack riffs the Tuscan scene in the first film (both end with an arm on the ground) just as the Imperials being picked off attacking the reactor to knock out the Rebel spherical weapon mirrors the rebels being picked off attacking the reactor of the imperial spherical weapon in the first film.

The escape pod carrying droids mirrors the landing capsule carrying the probot.

In the lost cut of Star Wars (1977) Luke is looking up at the sky with binoculars and this gets recycled in ESB. 

That might be the sort of surplus to requirements whimsy that clutters up the official SEs.

A Picture says a thousand words...

Really like that one

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