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Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released) — Page 109

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Hi,

Well, I made a Vimeo account to upload a couple quick clips (remember when we used to use yousendit, and rapidshare, and megaupload?  The pre-youtube days....)

It is processing, but it looks like the link is going to be this:

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Edit: It's up now.

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Another link

(some voices out of synch though). 

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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I worked on the dinner/fireplace scene (which is NOT in my cut).  There are some really great moments, but there are some lines that did not properly synch so I am not going to post right now....

More clips to follow...

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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God, that one-eyed assistant to the Senator is so stiff in his delivery that I wish we could get a new voice on that clam as well.

But Anakin's voice now sounds more natural than yours did, TM.

The balance of ambiance that allows the voice to sound right in the mix is yet to be perfected, but that's a separate battle.

Nice w ork!

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Looks great:)

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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Hello to everyone, I am sorry for disappearing again.  I am out of school now and I am currently trying to find investors for a real 35mm movie, rather than just re-editing. 

The long and the short with the recent dubs is that the voice is perfect, but I need more takes to work with.  There was only one take of each line which made sound synch nigh impossible, not to mention performance.  I will need at least 5 takes of each line. 

I need to get in touch with Henry again because I've lost the email I was previously communicating with- I apologize for being so badly in touch. 

 

If I ultimately can't finish this for good, I will probably upload the whole thing to vimeo in DVD quality and PM people the password, and maybe someone else can take the reigns or find inspiration for their own edits. 

But this has gone on so long that I would really like to finish it.  So I need to get more dialogue recorded, and then I can continue....

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Trooperman said:

Hello to everyone, I am sorry for disappearing again.  I am out of school now and I am currently trying to find investors for a real 35mm movie, rather than just re-editing. 

The long and the short with the recent dubs is that the voice is perfect, but I need more takes to work with.  There was only one take of each line which made sound synch nigh impossible, not to mention performance.  I will need at least 5 takes of each line. 

I need to get in touch with Henry again because I've lost the email I was previously communicating with- I apologize for being so badly in touch. 

 

If I ultimately can't finish this for good, I will probably upload the whole thing to vimeo in DVD quality and PM people the password, and maybe someone else can take the reigns or find inspiration for their own edits. 

But this has gone on so long that I would really like to finish it.  So I need to get more dialogue recorded, and then I can continue....

Were there pacing issues with his original audio work?

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Hey Ben,

There just isn't enough to work with yet (and again that is my fault for not following up last year).  Sometimes the lines synched but sometimes they didn't.  When there is only one take for each line, it is hard to change the reading or speed on a line.  Usually several different takes of each line is best so that you can mix and match using different takes and get the best end result not only with synch, but for performance.

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Whatever you decide to do, I am very excited to see anything I can. This was the fan edit that I was most excited for back in the day.

May the Force be with you.

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Thanks for the encouragement.  I think it is bound to be done eventually. 

For this new dubbed version, I actually thought about maybe buying a 35mm print of AOTC and then hacking that up with a flat-bed and convert all the ADR to tape and actually make a legitimate new print with a new soundtrack done in the magnetic realm. Then I realized that would be far too costly for what it is (a re-edit of somebody else's movie that is already in the legal grey area, particularly now that Disney owns Star Wars).  Would Cinelab or the other one in Georgia even MAKE a print of something made out of copyrighted material?  I don't know..

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Hi guys. I wished that I had known to do multiple takes when i was recording in the summer because it took 2 straight weeks to record every single piece of dialogue with only 1 take. Unfortunately, I will be returning to school next week and will not have much free time to spend on recording. With all the stresses of school and work, I really could not commit as much time as I could in the summer. I really wanted to see progress as soon as possible, but I sadly don't have the time. It may take months to record new takes ... 

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hlmactiii said:

Hi guys. I wished that I had known to do multiple takes when i was recording in the summer because it took 2 straight weeks to record every single piece of dialogue with only 1 take. Unfortunately, I will be returning to school next week and will not have much free time to spend on recording. With all the stresses of school and work, I really could not commit as much time as I could in the summer. I really wanted to see progress as soon as possible, but I sadly don't have the time. It may take months to record new takes ... 

Hey Henry,

That is my fault entirely for not specifying that.  I have also lost my old george lucas email so I apologize for any messages you may have sent me.  Good luck with school- do you think you might have time to come back to this next summer?

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Trooperman said:

That is my fault entirely for not specifying that.  I have also lost my old george lucas email so I apologize for any messages you may have sent me.  Good luck with school- do you think you might have time to come back to this next summer?

That's alright. I'm still committed, so if I can, I'll try recording snippets here and there over the next few months, and I'll definitely finish it by the summer.

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OK, great!  I will be in touch via PM.

Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side

Emperor Jar-Jar
“Back when we made Star Wars, we just couldn’t make Palpatine as evil as we intended. Now, thanks to the miracles of technology, it is finally possible. Finally, I’ve created the movies that I originally imagined.” -George Lucas on the 2007 Extra Extra Special HD-DVD Edition

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Just watched with my son who has still not seen the original release.

...Blown away.

Seeing it with someone who did not know what was original and what was not, the incredible music work really took over and this thing KICKED ASS.

I love this edit and, as assembled, I really like this movie.

Son's only complaint came at the staging that gets confusing around the final duel with Dukoo. But I was amazed how much it actually works as it is.

Not enough can be said about all the work you put into this TM. Thank you!

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Wait, is there a rough cut available or something?

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Not for distribution, but TM did send a few out to specific contributors. This was years ago now. I just never showed these movies to my son until I thought he was old enough to really get it.

If there is forward motion to finish this edit, the wait will be worth it.

If not, then I hope that at some point a "workprint" release will be done.

Reviews will suffer, if certain fixes are never made. But if it comes to that, people who can watch a work-print with a temp mix and imagine it is the only Episode II EVER will be pleasantly surprised.

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TV's Frink said:

Will this ever get finished?

 

Unlikely.

 

As a Christian, that is crazy. And upsetting I may add.

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The school's still out on if his account was hacked or something so best keep this thread on the topic of the project.

Hopefully Trooperman himself will find a way back here to talk about the finished product.

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I gave my hard copy away ages ago but made a digital copy onto an external hard drive. If I can find where that is stored I might be able to get a copy to someone somehow.

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mrbenja0618 said:

As a Christian, that is crazy. And upsetting I may add.

I second that.  If that isn't a hack, he's gone on to full insanity there.

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Regardless of his personal views, he still seems like a great guy.  Many people consider folks of my faith to be total wackos, and there are those among you who cause me to raise an eyebrow now and then.  Believing Pope Francis to be Jesus Christ is a weird idea to be sure, but we shouldn't let that destroy good feelings towards TM.

On the other hand, if he'd given his project a name with a potty acronym, he'd be fair game of course. ;)

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In passing I feel sadly obliged to mention that if we drop the 'T' in 'THE' it becomes SODS.

And that's the last we should say on the matter.