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Bingowings said:

No I meant these are prequels but they are also earlier episodes of sequence of films.

Most of the audience would know Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader and Luke and Leia are his kids so play with that and have another Anakin have kids and kill them (Anakin is just a name).

In a series with clones you could seem to kill off people but instead kill off a clone.

Make Palpatine a clone of the Sith Lord and then people will be guessing if he is the real guy gone bad or the bad guy pretending to be the good guy.

Shake it up a bit and make it less of a conveyor belt.

http://www.cracked.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=fb89c8144aca124e5553123d04d144aa&topic=54361.msg1274890#msg1274890

Sorry, your post just reminded me of this response on the Cracked forums:

"Six year old Anakin Skywalker steps outside to do his desert planet chores like planting water seeds or milking lizards or some dumb thing when suddenly a Jawa Sandcrawler pulls up in his front yard (doing this totally sweet donut in the process) and all of the Jawas just start pouring out of it, like buckets of fucking Jawas flying out in every direction and start beating him with mangled droid arms. They bust into his house and fuck everything up. He has to watch them trade his hot mom to Jabba the Hutt (who is all making out with her and shit in front of him) in exchange for this bitching awesome hat (it has LED lights that spell out "SLUTS" in Jawa talk) and keep Anakin around to scrape off sand barnacles or whatever space problem you get when you drive Sandcrawlers. Over the course of eight years he pieces together Threepio from droid scraps to keep his sanity but the Jawas find the droid before it even gets turned on on and they sell it to some space guy who uses it . Anakin gets so pissed that he goes and gets the awesome hat and he punches this big hole in the top. The Jawas are so mad they throw him in the sarlaac and he is digested for 1,000 years in horrible pain. SPOILER: he was not that Anakin Skywalker!!"



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NeverarGreat said:

Alexrd said:

1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

Same with the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy.

Though I did prefer the recent film to any of the Raimi films (and I'm a big Raimi fan).

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NeverarGreat said:

Bingowings said:

 

No I meant these are prequels but they are also earlier episodes of sequence of films.

Most of the audience would know Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader and Luke and Leia are his kids so play with that and have another Anakin have kids and kill them (Anakin is just a name).

In a series with clones you could seem to kill off people but instead kill off a clone.

Make Palpatine a clone of the Sith Lord and then people will be guessing if he is the real guy gone bad or the bad guy pretending to be the good guy.

Shake it up a bit and make it less of a conveyor belt.

http://www.cracked.com/forums/index.php?PHPSESSID=fb89c8144aca124e5553123d04d144aa&topic=54361.msg1274890#msg1274890

Sorry, your post just reminded me of this response on the Cracked forums:

"Six year old Anakin Skywalker steps outside to do his desert planet chores like planting water seeds or milking lizards or some dumb thing when suddenly a Jawa Sandcrawler pulls up in his front yard (doing this totally sweet donut in the process) and all of the Jawas just start pouring out of it, like buckets of fucking Jawas flying out in every direction and start beating him with mangled droid arms. They bust into his house and fuck everything up. He has to watch them trade his hot mom to Jabba the Hutt (who is all making out with her and shit in front of him) in exchange for this bitching awesome hat (it has LED lights that spell out "SLUTS" in Jawa talk) and keep Anakin around to scrape off sand barnacles or whatever space problem you get when you drive Sandcrawlers. Over the course of eight years he pieces together Threepio from droid scraps to keep his sanity but the Jawas find the droid before it even gets turned on on and they sell it to some space guy who uses it . Anakin gets so pissed that he goes and gets the awesome hat and he punches this big hole in the top. The Jawas are so mad they throw him in the sarlaac and he is digested for 1,000 years in horrible pain. SPOILER: he was not that Anakin Skywalker!!"


Maybe I'm not just everyone on this forum ;-)

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NeverarGreat said:

Alexrd said:

1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

Same with the Sam Raimi Spider-Man trilogy.

Slightly big difference: Sony had (and still has) to make a reboot/remake/sequel of Spider-Man from time to time in order to not loose the rights of the franchise back to Marvel. Disney doesn't have that risk. Besides, the prequels are one of the main reasons Star Wars has such an active fanbase today.

P.S: If they didn't do it to Tron, they won't do it to any Star Wars movie.

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Alexrd said:

Slightly big difference: Sony had (and still has) to make a reboot/remake/sequel of Spider-Man from time to time in order to not loose the rights of the franchise back to Marvel. Disney doesn't have that risk. Besides, the prequels are one of the main reasons Star Wars has such an active fanbase today.

P.S: If they didn't do it to Tron, they won't do it to any Star Wars movie.

Fair enough, I had forgotten that.

My point was simply that the Spider-Man reboot was something that many people felt was unnecessary and perplexing, from a creative point of view. I agree that it isn't probable that they will be remade, only that it's possible.

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Alexrd said:

1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few million. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

Oh, Alexrd... one of these days you will realize that almost everybody disagrees with you.

In regards to the PT, at least.

Until then, my friend!

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

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"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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Bingowings said:

Yeah but the PT is crap.

From your point of view.

xhonzi said:

Oh, Alexrd... one of these days you will realize that almost everybody disagrees with you.

In regards to the PT, at least.

I say "few" within those who saw the movies and the fan community. They may be millions, but they're still few in comparison. The theater ticket, DVD and merchandising sales/records of the prequels speak for themselves.

Until then, my friend!

Until then, indeed. ;-)

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So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

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Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

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It's not like people would stop watching the old prequels.  The prequels have several really great components:Duel of the Fates/Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Liam Neeson/Christopher Lee

 

It would just be interesting to get a take on it that matched more closely with the OT, even if it was lower budget than the old prequels. 

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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1990osu said:

It's not like people would stop watching the old prequels.  The prequels have several really great components:Duel of the Fates/Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Liam Neeson/Christopher Lee

 

It would just be interesting to get a take on it that matched more closely with the OT, even if it was lower budget than the old prequels. 

Had they been done with a lower budget they probably would have turned out better than they did......  ;)

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Two Words for Disney: PREQUEL REBOOT

Mind Control

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I've thought about it for many months and discussed it with friends, and the only way I see reasonably approaching the backstory while still keeping the bombshells of the OT intact is to make it a sequel series of movies that tells the events of the PT through a series of flashbacks as opposed to a straight forward series of events.
I think that really clears up a lot of issues in terms of storytelling logistics.

I've been working on my own fan-fic version of this, but I think it would be fun to see.

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Johannus said:

To be honest I'm all for that.  I don't mean to just be sounding contraversial but as it stands we have the OT, which I think is great, but I think E6 has big problems and could have been massively better, so I think there is room for improvement there.  

 

And most importantly, they could try to make episodes 1, 2, 3, and 6 a lot better (again only my personal opinion here).

I respect your opinion, but I can't agree.  To me, Return of the Jedi is every bit as classic as the other two and forms the masterpiece called "The Original Star Wars Trilogy."

Jabba the Hutt, the speeder bike chase, the ewoks triumphing over machinery, and the throne room scene especially has scenes that beat anything from "Star Wars" and "Empire" (see the part where Luke unleashes his inner dark side).  So much symbolism, so much atmosphere, and a hugely classic soundtrack.  It does not need remaking!

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

Try thinking about it for a bit and if you like post your musings.

If you'd rather not bother I can understand but I really don't feel the need to explain the obvious things I write.

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Bingowings said:

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

Try thinking about it for a bit and if you like post your musings.

If you'd rather not bother I can understand but I really don't feel the need to explain the obvious things I write.

I don't see what's obvious, aside from you not reading my posts. I said:

The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few.

How do you go from this, to:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

...

But yes, every film is art. If people like it or not is an whole different matter.

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Hear hear! I heartily agree with you here. ROTJ is very good.

The opening scene is just great.

The Jabba story is great.

The battle between the Rebels and the Empire at the second Death Star.

The triumph of the Ewoks and the Rebels. Lando shooting out of the Death Star with the famous Millenium Falcon.

The drama of the throne room scene where the Emperor is trying to make Luke angry, seduce him and is constantly patronising him. If you were Luke you would throttle him! But Luke had to go past this anger and conquer it. Especially when Vader said that his sister would turn to the dark side if he didn't. And finally Luke confronting the Emperor and getting electrocuted! And most important of all, Anakin Skywalker finally freeing himself from the one main villian from the entire Star Wars saga and throwing him over the hole to save his son! And also saving himself in the process as he turns back to the Light side.

As for what one other person said. The original and prequel trilogies is about Anakin Skywalker who is the chosen one but ends up going to the dark side. It then takes his son who then grows up and brings him finally back to the light. So its about Anakin and Luke Skywalker with a bit of Leia as well.

The Skywalker family. It is such a good story about the strength and unity of a family against evil.

CB

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Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

Alexrd said:

Bingowings said:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

And every Sparks album must be a bunch of dildos.

I don't understand how you've made those assumptions from what I wrote.

Try thinking about it for a bit and if you like post your musings.

If you'd rather not bother I can understand but I really don't feel the need to explain the obvious things I write.

I don't see what's obvious, aside from you not reading my posts. I said:

The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few.

How do you go from this, to:

So every Michael Bay film is a work of art then?

...

But yes, every film is art. If people like it or not is an whole different matter.

you have a selective memory for what you write.

The theater ticket, DVD and merchandising sales/records of the prequels speak for themselves.

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Commander Bane said:

Hear hear! I heartily agree with you here. ROTJ is very good.

The opening scene is just great.

The Jabba story is great.

The battle between the Rebels and the Empire at the second Death Star.

The triumph of the Ewoks and the Rebels. Lando shooting out of the Death Star with the famous Millenium Falcon.

The drama of the throne room scene where the Emperor is trying to make Luke angry, seduce him and is constantly patronising him. If you were Luke you would throttle him! But Luke had to go past this anger and conquer it. Especially when Vader said that his sister would turn to the dark side if he didn't. And finally Luke confronting the Emperor and getting electrocuted! And most important of all, Anakin Skywalker finally freeing himself from the one main villian from the entire Star Wars saga and throwing him over the hole to save his son! And also saving himself in the process as he turns back to the Light side.

As for what one other person said. The original and prequel trilogies is about Anakin Skywalker who is the chosen one but ends up going to the dark side. It then takes his son who then grows up and brings him finally back to the light. So its about Anakin and Luke Skywalker with a bit of Leia as well.

The Skywalker family. It is such a good story about the strength and unity of a family against evil.

CB

Nope it's just a tawdry contractual obligation album rehashing the popular bits from the earlier films only faster and with less emotional resonance.

If it wasn't for Hamill and possibly McDiarmid it would be as loathed as the PT.

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^^ I heartily disagree with you, sir.

I wish that I could just wish my feelings away...but I can't.  Wishful wishing can only lead to wishes wished for in futile wishfulness, which is not what I wish to wish for. 

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Bingowings said:

you have a selective memory for what you write.

Selective? That only expands my point about its success (which was what I previously cited). Now show me the correlation with your post.

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Bingowings said:

Commander Bane said:

Hear hear! I heartily agree with you here. ROTJ is very good.

The opening scene is just great.

The Jabba story is great.

The battle between the Rebels and the Empire at the second Death Star.

The triumph of the Ewoks and the Rebels. Lando shooting out of the Death Star with the famous Millenium Falcon.

The drama of the throne room scene where the Emperor is trying to make Luke angry, seduce him and is constantly patronising him. If you were Luke you would throttle him! But Luke had to go past this anger and conquer it. Especially when Vader said that his sister would turn to the dark side if he didn't. And finally Luke confronting the Emperor and getting electrocuted! And most important of all, Anakin Skywalker finally freeing himself from the one main villian from the entire Star Wars saga and throwing him over the hole to save his son! And also saving himself in the process as he turns back to the Light side.

As for what one other person said. The original and prequel trilogies is about Anakin Skywalker who is the chosen one but ends up going to the dark side. It then takes his son who then grows up and brings him finally back to the light. So its about Anakin and Luke Skywalker with a bit of Leia as well.

The Skywalker family. It is such a good story about the strength and unity of a family against evil.

CB

Nope it's just a tawdry contractual obligation album rehashing the popular bits from the earlier films only faster and with less emotional resonance.

If it wasn't for Hamill and possibly McDiarmid it would be as loathed as the PT.

Are you suggesting that the story of the original trilogy would be good "as is", with only episodes 4 and 5? We may both think that it was the weakest in terms of character development and originality, but to suggest that it was superfluous or unnecessary in tying up the story is to misunderstand the story entirely.

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