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Two Words for Disney: PREQUEL REBOOT

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What was once a joke could now easily become reality.  What would you like to see? I'll start:

-More emphasis on the actual clone wars

-Obi-Wan trains Anakin and they are good friends.  Anakin is in his 30s played by an Al Pacino or Robert DeNiro type, not a bratty teenager

-More real locations, less CGI

-No Jar-Jar

-No midichlorians

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No way that's going to happen.

Nice dreams you have there though.

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Why not? It's what I would do...

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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It's what I would do to which probably why I'm not allowed to be a multi-billionaire media tycoon.

 

Besides it would only work if you used TIME TRAVEL.

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It would be easiest way for them to make money.  If they remade 1-6 before making episode 7 then they would have less work to do on design and story for those 6, and they could try to please more people by improving episodes 1-3, they could try to keep episodes 4-6 true to the originals, and bring new viewers in from the very beginning instead of part way through a series.  They could also use the actors to play characters throughout and not have to cast younger or older versions of the characters each time.  They would even have their logo on the whole series and not have to worry about Fox getting a little share of 'their' money every time someone buys the existing movies.  It will happen eventually, they could just pause to plan it out and try to get it perfect before rushing into making a new film.

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It would be too soon after the PT to work on remakes of the PT.

No they will finish releasing the current films in 3D and then make episode VII in 3D.

They will count on one thing selling the other.

People reminded of Carrie's 3D boobs will revisit them three decades later, a year or so after ROTJ:3D:SE comes out. 

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Well by 2015 it would be ten years since Episode 3, and while I agree things shouldn't be rebooted that quickly, these days that seems like a respectable time to wait.  The Incredible Hulk rebooted after 5 years, Spiderman also 5 years, Superman 7 years, the Girl with the Dragon Tattoo only 2 years. 

After all the released info so far suggests E7 in 2015 I doubt they will go this route, but I still think it would be the easiest route for them to make money, and possibly result in better new films.

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Star Wars originated as a work of cinema so it's in a different slot from adaptations from comics and novels.

That said I loved the new Spider Man (even with the Avatar style holograms which will date the piece terribly).

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Of course the first three need to be remade badly. The next three don't.

 

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timdiggerm said:

Don't forget though: You remake the "first" three.... someone's gonna remake the "next" three.

(where "first" and "next" are in reference to in-universe chronology)

To be honest I'm all for that.  I don't mean to just be sounding contraversial but as it stands we have the OT, which I think is great, but I think E6 has big problems and could have been massively better, so I think there is room for improvement there.  And we have the PT which (personally) I think should be largley disregarded and only the very best ideas, and a few cool names or designed, should remain (though I admit this isn't everyone's view).

But we have two trilogies with quite different styles, different actors playing characters, and so on.  We are going to get a new trilogy, which could in theory be just as different in style and quality again. 

If they remade them, they could all (1-9) be made in the same style, using the same actors for characters that carry through the different films.  And most importantly, they could try to make episodes 1, 2, 3, and 6 a lot better (again only my personal opinion here).  If E4 and E5 weren't seen as being as good as the OT was then its still improved two thirds of the films, and they could open the end of RotJ to lead into E7 better than I think they really could at the moment.  As it stands the bad guys are dead and the good guys have won.  Bringing back a bad guy or making a good guy bad or something like that would deminish the rebel's victory a little, or introducing a new bad guy will just seem random because there was no precedent for it in the films we have.  If they just remade copies of the OT with new actors and changed nothing but a couple of small references to Thrawn then right away the Sequel Trilogy would have a better foundation (if they wanted to take it in that direction). 

Another way of looking at it is the more they release new films the more snippets of footage there might be for fan edits of the films we already have, thats always a bonus.

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If you want specifics, I'll go next.

- Make Anakin young, old, Luke's age, whatever, just make his character arc understandable in the context of the entire saga. I would make him a teenager, sans the whiny, but I can definitely see an older Anakin working well.

- More real sets. If possible, make the story smaller than the OT, so that it will dovetail with the originals when they are watched in episodic order.

- Above all: Don't give away the revelations of the OT, like Vader's identity, Yoda, and Leia as Luke's sister. Yes, everyone today knows these revelations, but think in the long term. People will watch the prequels first if they want to see everything in chronological order, so don't ruin the surprise, or step on the toes of the originals.

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Me I would make Anakin a navigator on a Spice Freighter. 

He uses his latent Force abilities to plot courses quickly and avoid danger.

He sends his money back to his wife and sister who live on his brother-in-law's farm on a Kansas cornfield planet.

He saves Obi-Wan and listening to his tales of the Force drops everything (including his wife, who he doesn't know is already pregnant) to become a Jedi.

But he gets drawn into an affair with the Queen of Alderaan.

Near the end of the story Darth Vader visits the farm and kills Anakin's wife forcing Kenobi, Owen and Beru to flee to Tatooine.

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Post that was meant to go in at #6, but was almost lost to the internets:

 

I'm not talking about remaking anything (certainly not the originals), I'm talking about Mulliganning the prequels.

Call it a "what if" if you'd like (or a Star Wars Infinities storyline) but make something good that's an alternative for people that have taste.

And Bingo, only soft reboots use time travel...

IT'S MY TRILOGY, AND I WANT IT NOW!

"[George Lucas] rebooted the franchise in 1997 without telling anyone." -skyjedi2005

"Yeah, well, George says a lot of things..." a young 1997 xhonzi on RASSM

"They're my movies." -George Lucas. 19 people won oscars for their work on Star Wars (1977) and George Lucas wasn't one of them.

Rewrite the Prequels!

 

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They mentioned "side" movies happening in additon to the 7-9 trilogy, like a Boba Fett movie or whatever. If they did a Mad Max/Sergio Leone-style Kenobi movie with Ewan that would be all the prequel I'd ever need.

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xhonzi said:

 

And Bingo, only soft reboots use time travel...

Nah I meant actual time travel not a plot device/stunt codpiece.

That way we can make the best prequels possible and make them the prequels and reboot reality.

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Bingowings said:

Me I would make Anakin a navigator on a Spice Freighter. 

He uses his latent Force abilities to plot courses quickly and avoid danger.

He sends his money back to his wife and sister who live on his brother-in-law's farm on a Kansas cornfield planet.

He saves Obi-Wan and listening to his tales of the Force drops everything (including his wife, who he doesn't know is already pregnant) to become a Jedi.

But he gets drawn into an affair with the Queen of Alderaan.

Near the end of the story Darth Vader visits the farm and kills Anakin's wife forcing Kenobi, Owen and Beru to flee to Tatooine.

This is pretty much the story that was implied by the OT. Why Lucas didn't go with this is beyond me.

However, I would go back further into the past, making it 40 years before the OT while Anakin was a teenager. I've been working for some time on a prequel rewrite, and holding so closely to the 20 year time gap feels like it's rushing the story and limiting the audience's imagination of implied events.

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Guys,

The only problem I have here is that no matter how you change or reboot or create a new prequel trilogy entirely, the basic fact of the prequel story is that it is a backstory to the original trilogy. It is not meant to be filmed. It is a bad decision on George's part to attempt to film it. The backstory is rather a huge story which explains why the original trilogy was so good. If you want to film it, then there would have to be far more than just 3 films to make the story credible. The same with The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. They are so good because of its even more huge backstory. There is no way you can film the books that predates the two main story (ie. the appendices of Lotr and The Silmarillion etc.).

It is best to just leave the prequel and the original trilogy alone and move on. (Well restoring the Original Trilogy to its original unaltered theatrical version and just clean it up is something Disney can do no problem and release it again in the cinemas and DVD and blu-ray. This would be a MAJOR victory for us after all.) You can reboot the prequel trilogy but how can you cast Iain McDiarmid as the younger Emperor Palpatine again? In my opinion he was (along with Liam Neeson) the best actor. He will not act again and he has grown too old now. He did an excellent job in the prequel trilogy which I think saved it to some extent.

I hope that George Lucas who created Star Wars in the first place and who deserves our respect has finally seen sense and sold it to others to do what they wish with it.

It is now high time for us to petition and persuade Disney to realise our long-held wishes!

I just hope that the next sequel trilogy does not disregard or contradict all the novels and comics that took place after ROTJ.

Plus, has anyone seen the new Star Trek reboot? Not bad eh?! Anything can be done these days. But personally I would not reboot episodes 4 to 6. They are far too good, too original and too classic to be changed at all. I absolutely love episodes 4 to 6 and grew up with them. I can't understand why people don't like ROTJ. It is a fitting conclusion to the whole Saga.

This is why anyone who watches Star Wars must watch the original trilogy first as the main story and then the prequel trilogy next (if they so wish) as a sort of reference films. This is my opinion anyway.

CB

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Commander Bane said:

Guys,

The only problem I have here is that no matter how you change or reboot or create a new prequel trilogy entirely, the basic fact of the prequel story is that it is a backstory to the original trilogy. It is not meant to be filmed. It is a bad decision on George's part to attempt to film it.

I agree, the story that Lucas made for the prequels was unfilmable. However, many aspects of that story make no sense in terms of theme, plot, and basic continuity when compared to the OT. In that way, the Lucas prequels are NOT the backstory to Star Wars. Remember that he made up almost all of the details of the story after the OT, or at least there is no reason to think that he had it all planned out ahead of time. For Star Wars, the backstory will always be speculation, so more can always be created or changed.

I think that there are good stories to tell in the Star Wars universe. I just want people to tell them, not continue the story of the OT, which was only 3 movies long.

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I should probably explain what I mean by the "story of the OT."

The story of the original trilogy was the story of how Luke Skywalker became a Jedi Knight and helped defeat an empire. For Lucas to make the OT into part of a six film epic of the tragedy of Anakin Skywalker is unnecessary. Anakin Skywalker can have his own trilogy, and his own story, completely separate from the OT, with a (gasp!) happy ending.

 

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As with fears about Episode VII, there is no reason why a good PT couldn't have been made.

It just wasn't.

The key is to replace any backstory you expose with more backstory.

Who is Palpatine, where does he come from? Is he a politician who becomes a Voodoo Freemason Wizard  or a Sith pretending to be the universes first honest politician? There's an interesting backstory there which should have been hinted at from day/episode one).

What are the Sith anyway? What is their history with the Jedi? Why do they want revenge?

Also making characters we don't know the final fate of the main characters would allow the story we know to happen but not spoil the episodes that already exist. It would also create drama because we don't know what will finally happen to them and the writer isn't handcuffed to material we have already seen.

So really Anakin, Yoda, Obi-Wan, Palpatine, The Droids, Tarkin, The Jedi, should be secondary or minor characters (but they should be characters and not some bloke wandering around in an Halloween mask in the final sequence).

If expectations were played with it could have been great (the remake of Night Of The Living Dead worked this way, things happened differently creating new drama based on familiarity with the existing material).

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Bingowings said:

If expectations were played with it could have been great (the remake of Night Of The Living Dead worked this way, things happened differently creating new drama based on familiarity with the existing material).

Bingo, I'm confused. Are you saying that the prequels should be in an alternate universe? True, that could work, but it's like the Star Trek reboot, where you might as well not call it Star Trek, because it's in a different universe anyway.

But you're absolutely right that backstory can beget backstory.

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1990osu said:

What was once a joke could now easily become reality.

How and why? The prequels were a success, despite the vocal bashing of a few. There is simply no reason to reboot them. Same with the originals.

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NeverarGreat said:

Bingowings said:

If expectations were played with it could have been great (the remake of Night Of The Living Dead worked this way, things happened differently creating new drama based on familiarity with the existing material).

Bingo, I'm confused. Are you saying that the prequels should be in an alternate universe? True, that could work, but it's like the Star Trek reboot, where you might as well not call it Star Trek, because it's in a different universe anyway.

But you're absolutely right that backstory can beget backstory.

No I meant these are prequels but they are also earlier episodes of sequence of films.

Most of the audience would know Anakin Skywalker is Darth Vader and Luke and Leia are his kids so play with that and have another Anakin have kids and kill them (Anakin is just a name).

In a series with clones you could seem to kill off people but instead kill off a clone.

Make Palpatine a clone of the Sith Lord and then people will be guessing if he is the real guy gone bad or the bad guy pretending to be the good guy.

Shake it up a bit and make it less of a conveyor belt.