I've read the literary source. I'm disappointed by the lack of nudity in the movie...
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Hehe. I've long wanted to see Richard Corben adapt it. He did some great covers for the novels in the 70's.
Frank Frazetta did some bookcovers too.
Where were you in '77?
Here's the latest promo that was shown during the Superbowl - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRaSV2pknTg
Certainly gives the impression that the whole saga will end up being released in 3D no matter what the box-office of this first one...
Since my earlier post didn't work, why don't they use these posters more often?
Another promo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yQ-NY0WrSoU
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Tobar said:
loved these guys takedown of the prequels and absolutely discrediting lucas as a 'visual' filmmaker and 'mythic' storyteller. but im not sure what they can say at this point that wouldn't be considered 'piling on' or singling out.
hopefully, they will add a couple cents regarding the unavailibility of the OOT.
a part of me wants to see them instead yell at james cameron for focusing on 3d titanic instead of spending time remastering The Abyss for Blu ray
A couple of reviews for TPM have come online:
http://www.thereelbits.com/2012/02/07/review-star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace-3d/
http://www.gizmodo.com.au/2012/02/culturemodo-the-phantom-menace-3d/
Pretty lukewarm, so far. The first was glad that the 3D wasn't over-the-top, but felt it had some technical issues, and still found the movie highly problematic. The second one isn't crazy about the movie, but enjoys having a Star Wars film on the big screen, but ultimately feels the 3D conversion itself is poor. I'm more curious to see how critics re-evaluated the film a decade later, but these samples seem to be basically saying the same thing as the negative-moderates of 1999. I guess we'll see how this develops.
Crappy movie is still crappy, even in "3D".
Shocking.
“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”
Hey, Immortals would have ordinarily been "crappy" but the 3D made it "okay, for a discount movie night screening." Although it was shot natively in 3D.
Which, BTW, is how I will be seeing TPM next tuesday--discount movie night! Friday night has a back-to-back screening of Terminator and Robocop on the biggest screen in downtown Toronto. You think I'd skip that to see Jar Jar Binks sticking his tongue at me in 3D? Psh.
Everyone who goes has to post a pic of their ticket stub. Otherwise you can't complain how bad the conversion is. ;)
I still need to find a raincoat and dark sunglasses just in case I cave in.
Where were you in '77?
zombie84 said:
I'm more curious to see how critics re-evaluated the film a decade later, but these samples seem to be basically saying the same thing as the negative-moderates of 1999. I guess we'll see how this develops.
you mean TPM won't age gracefully and be re-discovered like blade runner!??!? thats what the apologists said in 2000!! on a serious note, my guess is the reviews probably won't have the kind of malice in 1999 but highly unlikely they will be positive. they will make historical references to the fallout and of course include the 'raped childhood' meme - the ratio of people that have actually said this in 1999 versus those that just merely quote it by now is 1:1000000.
walking_carpet said:
the 'raped childhood' meme - the ratio of people that have actually said this in 1999 versus those that just merely quote it by now is 1:1000000.
how true!
"Close the blast doors!"
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This sounds snarky, but I'm genuinely curious: this really is for a new generation of very young Disney-age kids just getting into SW so the marketing etc. is perfectly appropriate. But how does everybody (LFL, and all these parents) reconcile that with all the, you know...CHILDREN STABBED TO DEATH AND SPOUSAL ABUSE? just wondering.
zombie84 said:
Pretty lukewarm, so far. The first was glad that the 3D wasn't over-the-top, but felt it had some technical issues, and still found the movie highly problematic. The second one isn't crazy about the movie, but enjoys having a Star Wars film on the big screen, but ultimately feels the 3D conversion itself is poor.
Have to say that the way I read that second review link that adywan posted, it seemed to regard it a pretty good overall effort for a 2D-3D 'conversion'.
As far as the 'depth' of 3D balance goes though, it seems from this exlusive 'Episode I 3D Conversion' featurette that George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)...so I wonder just *how* subtle and 'window'-like the effect is throughout that he's gone for - http://movies.yahoo.com/movie/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/trailers/star-wars-episode-i-featurette-3d-coversion-28213694.html
Will there be *any* elements that pop out towards us during certain moments at all to wow the young 'uns, or will it all be like looking 'into the distance through a window'? Either way, not long now to find out...
ImperialFighter said:
I happened to catch something on t.v. this morning called the 'A-Z Of Star Wars Episode I:T4 Movie Special' which was shown on Channel 4 here in the U.K.
It was basically a 35 mins. long, slightly irreverent, tongue-in-cheek preview for the release of TPM3D.
It also showed numerous behind-the-scenes clips as well as various OT scenes to remind us of those too, and a quick look at some 501st members also.
I'm not sure if this is available to those based outside the U.K., but those that are here *might* be able to 'catch up' with this online tomorrow onwards.
Turns out that this recent t.v. special *is* available on Channel 4's 'catch-up' site now after all, although I'm still not sure if those outside the U.K. are able to watch it or not. So here's the link to view it now, after one or two adverts at the start - http://www.channel4.com/programmes/a-z-of-star-wars-episode-i-t4-movie-special/4od#3288781
ImperialFighter said:
George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)
The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has. Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.
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Review of TPM by slantmagazine: http://www.slantmagazine.com/film/review/star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace/6039
They don't specifically address the 3D, but otherwise this is a great review. Snippet:
Every so often, though, the film surprises you with a visual idea that's both simple and effective: Federation tanks emerging from behind Naboo's rolling green hills, a podracer running on one engine spiraling through the air before crashing, an enormous Gungan shield materializing around their army. But such ideas are uncommon and fleeting, never left long enough to savor, and they are frustratingly counterpointed by idiocy: a ridiculous-looking fish is eaten whole by an even more ridiculous-looking fish, a Gungan leader chortles messily (twice), Anakin yells "yippee!" on at least two occasions, droids incongruously mimic the Three Stooges. The Phantom Menace is irredeemably plagued by such ridiculousness, and it seems incredible to me that so much stupidity could have made it into a film this expensively and meticulously coordinated. I can accept that a project this large could sink under its own weight, and that its most pressing issues were too fundamental to the material to have been amended through simple suggestion. But how is it possible that of the hundreds of people materially and emotionally invested in the production of this project, nobody pointed out that maybe Jar-Jar stepping in shit did not belong in this movie?
You know of the rebellion against the Empire?
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
ImperialFighter said:
George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)
The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has. Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.
Very good point Pug. I gots a feelin' his story will change when it's time for cg Sy to suck the audience outta their seats...
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
ImperialFighter said:
George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)
The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has. Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.
I'm going to have to disagree based on the new Star Tours. Outside of one shot, at least on my path, the 3D was more about depth and perspective than shock and amazement with things popping out at you. That project suggests that he actually means it when he says he's not crazy about 3D as a spectacle, but more as an enhancement.
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bkev said:
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
ImperialFighter said:
George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)
The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has. Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.
I'm going to have to disagree based on the new Star Tours. Outside of one shot, at least on my path, the 3D was more about depth and perspective than shock and amazement with things popping out at you. That project suggests that he actually means it when he says he's not crazy about 3D as a spectacle, but more as an enhancement.
You're inside a ship on that ride. You can't have stuff popping out at you all the time unless you're supposed to be sucked out into space. The only appropriate time to have something pop out at you is if it literally bursts through the cockpit window.
Where's the quote of Lucas saying he only likes 3D for the depth? So far the only person I've seen talk about it is John Knoll and he's the person who was put in charge of the conversion.
Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:
ImperialFighter said:
George doesn't like 3D That 'comes out at you' from the screen (!)
The skeptic in me wonders if he "doesn't like" that sort of 3D because he can't do it with the source material he has. Because that statement is inconsistent with Sy Snootles' ROTJ Special Edition lips.
I'm starting to think that it's not the Lucas isn't true to his filmmaking ideals... it's that he doesn't have any.
Given his frequent self-contradictions, both in statements and in his work, it sems likely he's just bluffing whenever he talks, and making it all up as he goes along (like the Star Wars plotline).
I don't mean that as pure Lucas Bashing. Look at the pattern. How can a man make the heartfelt American Graffiti and the souless AOTC? How can he produce the most amazing, visceral special effects and the worst most embarrassingly obvious CGI?
I think it's likely that GL just has little to no self-reflection as an artist. He probably doesn't rationally know why his films were genius anymore than he knows why his other films are so dissapointing.
