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Aalenfae's PREQUEL TRILOGY (Heavily delayed - computer exploded) — Page 10

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gobalicious said:

Well done on the video.  It's always good to see a new ROTS edit.  It has the most potential of the prequels.

I really like the edit of the elevator scene.  It's so ridiculous that old man Palpatine somehow managed to latch on after falling and swing out the door without raising serious suspicions.

I remember someone else did a similar edit of this scene (maybe Bob?) and then after they swung out the door, inserted Obi-Wan's line "Did I miss something?"  It was one of the few times I laughed out loud in a prequel.  After he turns around, he has a very confused look on his face.

That actually sounds like it would work pretty well.

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Yeah, I'm digging that idea.
I'll see how that sounds - if I decide to keep the elevator swinging.  

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MrInsaneA said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o--bLEobBFY&feature=related

Y'know Aalenfae, even though I'm not a fan of your slowed down Mustafar fight, I think that using a slower version of Battle of the Heroes would benefit the sequence greatly. 

Nice!Cheap but effective

Tho with some slowdowns in the battle and the music might seem that all the footage is slowed down.

Careful placement :)


-Angel

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Angel said:

MrInsaneA said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o--bLEobBFY&feature=related

Y'know Aalenfae, even though I'm not a fan of your slowed down Mustafar fight, I think that using a slower version of Battle of the Heroes would benefit the sequence greatly. 

Nice!Cheap but effective

Tho with some slowdowns in the battle and the music might seem that all the footage is slowed down.

Careful placement :)


-Angel

IMO it seems that it would be very apparent to any audience that the sequence is slowed down, so why not play up on that? 

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I've actually only slowed down a few shots for the entire duel. And the one that was really noticeable is a little faster now, so it's not nearly as apparent. 

I have a really awesome vision for the Mustafar duel, but it just wouldn't work - because it'd be REALLY slow and REALLY powerful. But I'd have to film new segments with actors in costume.  

^ And for that, I'd love to use the slowed-down music. It matches my imagination perfectly. 

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I'm not dead! Just haven't been at my editing computer for a very long time.

So I made a mock-up for a potential idea I had. Thoughts?
 

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I'd prefer this sort of thing.  It makes the PT look more like the OT, and that's the Star Wars universe I fell in love with.

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I have a craving for some more videos, to tell the truth.

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Don't worry - I have plans to release a few more clips. But I can't do that until the end of January, as I am on holiday until then. 

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aalenfae said:

I'm not dead! Just haven't been at my editing computer for a very long time.

So I made a mock-up for a potential idea I had. Thoughts?
 

I like it.  It looks like you increased the size of her belly too.

To be honest, you could make it a lot bigger.  Take a look at woman 9 months pregnant with even a single baby.  It's huge.  As it was, it's way too small and misshapen.  It's like they just put a throw pillow under there.  Rounder and perhaps a little farther south.

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Thanks for the suggestion.

I'll definitely be working on that for the final version, as this is really just a mock-up.

She hardly looks three months pregnant in the movie, let alone about to give birth, haha. Just getting it to look convincing is the issue.  

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aalenfae said:

Thanks for the suggestion.

I'll definitely be working on that for the final version, as this is really just a mock-up.

She hardly looks three months pregnant in the movie, let alone about to give birth, haha. Just getting it to look convincing is the issue.  

Nice work!

And yeah I agree....Padme looked more like she had a pot belly.

 

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Aalenfae, I'm sorry to have pulled you away from this edit, but I'm so glad we have you.  You really have a great talent.

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I say get rid of the belly altogether and not have her be that far along in the movie. No mention of pregnancy and no birth either. (the word pregnant also makes me cringe - our real world terminology just sounds wrong in a Star Wars film. Just like Padme saying Anakin's not her "boyfriend" in AOTC).

But the main crux of it is that I hate that it's explicitly pointed out "SHE'S LUKE AND LEIA'S MOTHER. AND ANAKIN'S THE FATHER AND HE'S NOW DARTH VADER!!!"

But that's just my wish. I understand there might not be much of a movie left once everything contemptible is removed ;-)

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@darth_ender
It's definitely alright. I am very excited to be on-board for RotJ!
But I will still be working on RotS. It will just take me longer to get it done. But don't worry. I finish what I start.

@brash_stryker
You don't know how much I feel your pain, haha!
There are many things I would love to change... but as you mentioned, there wouldn't be much of a movie left! I've already cut over 45 minutes! (Some of which I am going to have to add back in. It's just too short now) 

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It was the same with my AOTC edit. So much was cut out that it was just too short. And what was left I thought should have been done differently in the original cut - with no way of fixing it without shooting new scenes with new actors. I had lots of promising editing ideas and was praised for the ones I put into practice with youtube videos, but when you start thinking it'll never be as it should be because of the material you started with, it's a little discouraging.

Of course, someone with the skills and ambition will one day reshoot some significant scenes. Maybe even with key characters - I truly believe that a recast of Anakin is the only way the fans' original vision of the prequels can ever become a reality. It only takes one crazy bastard to reshoot new actors, another to do motion controlled filming on his ship miniatures, and then you have something workable to combine with other people's existing changes to what we already have. All of a sudden we'd have something that isn't just an improvement but is practically an entire new film. Maybe I'm being optimistic. I don't know, but seeing your excellent ideas and thinking about all the others I've seen has just got me thinking that reshot scenes are the one thing missing needed to combine them all together into a cohesive whole. That's why I've always thought a 'round table' style edit, with lots of people on board would be interesting, but a nightmare to coordinate and agree on things.

Edits like yours are good as they get the creative juices flowing. Mine is nowhere near as ambitious on a visual level, and I stated from the beginning that it was more a 'proof of concept' than an edit in its own right, but I was trying absolutely everything I could to implement major plot changes, and I believe there was real potential there to convey something dramatically different to what we started with. It just needed that extra something that I don't have at my disposal - new action scenes and at least one new character reshot with dialogue.

Combine clever editing, with thematic changes through visuals (which it seems you excel at), and you already have a solid base. I've seen first hand that ideas from previous edits are borrowed and tacked on to other people's subsequent edits all the time (I've done it) and this is why even the abandoned or "on-hold" edits (like mine) are still useful. Each new edit we see represents the accumulation of many people's great ideas and concepts. In many ways, it's like a collaboration, only in a more organic way, being added to by different people over time. You could call it evolution if you wanted to be pretentious. 

Anyway, this post turned out longer than I planned. :-p It didn't really apply to your project in particular, just fan edits in general and how I see the work that we all do being an invaluable contribution to that final 'definitive' cut where someone has gone the extra mile, along with everyone's previous ideas.

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Speaking of your AotC edit, how's that coming? You haven't abandoned it, have you?

I feel bad replying to such a long, heartfelt post with a short one, but rest assured that I share your sympathies.
I would love to see some radically different prequels - with recast characters and redone effects, but I feel that we will never quite get what we desire. Adywan has expressed interest in doing some massive overhauls with his Prequels, but I'm not sure even he can pull some of it off. 

In the end, the Prequels ARE Star Wars, and I love them. Not in the "these are so great!" sense, but in the sense that a parent still loves their children, even when they misbehave.
And that's why I work on the Prequels. Not because I hate them, but because I love them and want to see them the best they can be.  

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More 'on hold' than abandoned. I haven't had my mac set back up since a house move so I've been unable to get back into it, but I was already discouraged enough to have felt willing to release it with purely editing changes (and title cards indicating where a visual change that's beyond me would be). I know I'll never be happy with it the way it turns out, but that gives me an opportunity to really go wild with my ideas and intersperse my feasible editing choices with what I wish someone would shoot (written as notes on title cards). Only then can I bring the narrative I envision to life, and you never know, when someone crazy enough comes along with the resources and support to reshoot stuff, they might take my ideas on board :-) Then I will have made a difference.

But enough about me. Any new examples of what you're doing? ;-)

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I would love to see some more of your work sometime.


But what am I up to these days? Well, I threw together a mock-up of an idea I had. Thoughts?

 

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aalenfae said:

I would love to see some more of your work sometime.


But what am I up to these days? Well, I threw together a mock-up of an idea I had. Thoughts?

 

I love it! A suggestion though: replace one of the tables with this, but leave the other table. Give Anakin something to jump on during the fight, I really like that part.

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I guess it depends on how I edit the duel. My current cut doesn't have the running jump, but I'll probably play around with it a lot more before I'm satisfied. Either way, much of the fight in this room has been cut. 

What if I added some ANH style office chairs around the room? 

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aalenfae said:

I guess it depends on how I edit the duel. My current cut doesn't have the running jump, but I'll probably play around with it a lot more before I'm satisfied. Either way, much of the fight in this room has been cut. 

What if I added some ANH style office chairs around the room? 

Not sure what you mean by that. Like the ones in the Death Star conference room? That might be cool.