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DominicCobb said:

ray_afraid said:

Haven't read through this entire thread, so I hope I'm not retreading to much water, but here's my idea for the opening of ROTJ that I posted in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread. I'm no good at posting pics to show exactly what I'm talking about, but I think you can follow...

Opening text would have to be altered to mention that Luke has returned to Dagobah to continue his training.

After opening text, we pan down to Darth Vaders Super Stardestroyer near the uncompleted Death Star.

Cut to Darth Vader in his mediation chamber talking to Luke telepathically through the force urging him to join him on the darkside.

Cut to the deleted scene of Luke in the cave working on his new lightsaber. Edit the exterior of the cave to resemble Dagobah. Luke shakes the voice in his head and continues working and then ignites his saber.

Cut back to the Super Stardestroyer and we see Vader's shuttle leave for the Death Star (why was he leaving from a standard Stardestroyer originally?) continue to the original opening scene with Vader and Jerrod.

After that scene, cut to Yoda's hut on Dagobah for Yoda's death scene. After Luke says "So I am a Jedi.", leave out Yoda's line about having to face Vader again and just cut to him saying "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." This way we get the idea that Luke has continued and now finished his training with Yoda. Yoda dies, the conversation with Obi-Wan is had, Luke takes off in the X-Wing and then cut to the Emperors arrival on the Death Star. That scene plays out like normal and then cut to the droids on Tattooine and continue from there. This all gives plenty of time between seeing Luke leave Dagobah and his arrival at Jabbas palace.

This would give the beginning of the film a more menacing tone with Vader still haunting Luke and more of a build up to the action at Jabba's palace. Agree? Disagree?

This would be my ideal opening.

Mine as well. This is a very good idea. Perfection, if I may venture to say so actually. Can't think of a better opening myself. 

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So far we have four votes.  Things are moving well.  It has been requested that I correct one of the suggestions, that being the issue of Duel of the Fates.  My phrasing suggests the song occupy the entire battle, while the original idea was that its motif would be used during a portion of the battle.  I'll correct the voting post.

I sent the PM out to everyone, but at least one person's box was full, and since I sent it to everyone at once and it didn't tell me who rejected it, I don't know who isn't being notified.  I apologize for this, but please vote if you've ever contributed to this thread, even if you didn't get a PM.

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Another complication: I didn't realize that there was a character limit to PMs.  That means that three out of the four of you who voted had your PMs cut short.  Sorry about that.  It's late, but I will write you again and let you know tomorrow where it got cut off so you can include the rest of your votes.

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UPDATE: I've numbered all the items up for vote to ease the voting process.  You may copy the whole post to know what your voting for, but make sure you either split your vote into two PMs or you only use the numbers when you actually send the PM, or else your vote will likely get cut off.

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Remember, this is the perfect opportunity to sway the votes of those who are thus far undecided.  I have an item I wish to push a bit: those darn Victory star destroyers.  Heck, even if we don't include those, it makes more sense for the Empire to use support craft.  In spite of the US's powerful naval aircraft carriers, they always travel with several support craft to perform different roles.  To simply have the Executor and several star destroyers overlooks the fact that other ships might do better at taking on smaller craft or harassing capital ships.  To me it is logical, and those who followed this idea first at at the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread know that I love the Victories.  Okay, I know they're older according to Star Wars lore, but they are still star destroyers, justifying Lando's, "I wonder what those star destroyers are waiting for."  And they could act as ideal support craft.  They were supposed to be capable of atmospheric travel, so if we really wanted to get crazy, they could even pursue some fighters into the atmosphere of Endor.  These are just thoughts, but I have a feeling I'm going to be outvoted on this one :)

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Hey everyone: here's me vote swaying....IF YOU WATCH LANDO DIE ON-SCREEN, A PART OF YOUR CHILDHOOD SOUL WILL DIE.

Not really, but still.

 

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Actually here, let me just paste everything I want to vote for here. I'm not saying I want you to vote almost identical to this...but you should totally vote identical to this.

Music:

 

  • Across the Stars (end credits): Ronster; (Luke/Leia moments, elsewhere in film) – MrInsaneA
  • Death Star Theme (Vader’s approach to DSII) – darth_ender
  • Swing Swing Swing in place of Lapti Nek/Jedi Rocks – fishmanlee
  • Duel of the Fates (space battle) – MrInsaneA
  • Stick with ’97 celebration music as opposed to Yub Nub - DominicCobb

 

Opening with Vader arriving at DSII, then on to Dagobah, then on to Tatooine. – MrInsaneA

Luke flies through Beggar’s Canyon as he arrives at Tatooine – Ronster

Luke uses the Force to close the Rancor gate, or at least to hurl the skull – DominicCobbm, darth_ender

 

  • A quicker-to-violence with underlings, still subservient to Emperor Vader - Mithrandir

 

 

  • Han deliberately hits Boba Fett’s jetpack – Vladius (originally mentioned by Spence)
  • More Boba Fett action, i.e. flamethrower, jetting out of Sarlaac’s mouth, etc. – Ronster
  • Luke kills Fett, decapitates him
    • Make Ewoks tougher by cutting cute actions, redubbing with more aggressive sounds – darth_ender
    Show Ewoks with stormtrooper helmets in village – darth_ender (from SSWR)
    • Include many more ships, including more Mon Cal cruisers and Victory-class star destroyers – darth_ender
    • Include General Madine scenes, and have his Mon Cal cruiser be the first destroyed by the DSII - DominicCobb
    • Y-wing uses bombs on Executor – Angel
    • Let Lando live as in original film – MrInsaneA
    • Put pyre scene at very end, after celebrations – darth_ender (Spence’s idea)

 

 

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Concerning the Bothans & Boushh intro:

While I obviously realize that this entire idea would be difficult to pull off and would require a lot of participation from costumers, special effects, sound and more, I figured I'd try to write the scene anyway. Below is the beginning and I know how the scene should end, but I'm not really sure how to write the middle part (action scenes, I guess). I'll write the ending and post it later.

 

1 SPACE 1


The boundless heavens serve as a back-drop for the MAIN TITLE,

followed by a ROLL-UP, which crawls into infinity.


STAR

WARS


Episode VI


RETURN OF THE JEDI


Luke Skywalker has returned to Dagobah

to complete his training with the Jedi

Master Yoda, in preparation for rescuing

his friend Han Solo from the clutches of

the vile gangster Jabba the Hutt.


Little does Luke know that the GALACTIC

EMPIRE has secretly begun construction

on a second, more powerful Death Star

which, when completed, will spell certain

doom for the Rebel Alliance.


Even now, Bothan Spies in league with

the Rebellion are preparing to enter the

Imperial Capital in an attempt to capture

the new battle station's secret plans...


PAN DOWN to reveal CORUSCANT, the glimmering jewel at the

heart of the Empire. A small asteroid comes into view, slowly

tumbling toward the planet. The camera follows it downward as

it picks up speed, glowing hot and eventually burning as a

meteor, high above the nighttime cityscape of the capital.

As it begins to burn, a voice, distorted as if over a radio

but clearly having a curious accent, is heard.


VOICE

Bravo Team, prepare for insertion in five, four, three...


The meteor bursts, its final moments very bright before

disappearing in a cloud of smoke, ash and dust. From out of

the cloud fall four figures, in dark body armor, almost

invisible against the night sky, falling in formation with

military precision.


2 EXT. CORUSCANT - LANDING PLATFORM - NIGHT 2


The four figures fire small retro rockets, coming to a

sudden yet silent stop on a long, flat landing platform which

juts out from the side of one of the many skyscrapers. Their

helmets are oddly shaped, clearly hiding an alien face behind

their dark visors, while their postures bear the mark of

special forces, secret operatives. One agent looks out at the

horizon, the area directly in front of the platform strangely

clear of very tall buildings, allowing for a long view.


AGENT

It's been far too long since I was permitted to look upon this

beauty. Too long since we could walk the streets in freedom.


Their leader places his hand the agent's shoulder, comforting

yet guiding back to their task.


LEADER

Then come, my brother, and let us remember why we came. For soon,

we may all once again live free.


The agent turns back to the group and nods, as a figure emerges

from the shadows at the far end of the platform, beyond a parked

Y-WING. This figure is BOUSHH, an oddly cloaked bounty hunter, 

who swiftly approaches the strike force.


AGENT 2

I do not know why we are working with this...bounty hunter.


LEADER

A great enemy makes strange bedfellows of many. Difficult things

may be required to accomplish great goals.


The agent nods, as if hearing proverbs, before Boushh reaches them.


BOUSHH (in Ubese subtitled)

I have prepared the necessary arrangements for your stay


LEADER

We would prefer the guest room with full accomodations


Boushh nods and produces a code cylinder, handing it to the Leader

who quickly pockets it.


BOUSHH (in Ubese subtitled)

You will find the bed made before you arrive


All four agents turn, quickly walking to the edge of the landing

platform, away from Boushh, revealing the massive IMPERIAL DRYDOCK

below them. Several STAR DESTROYERS are landed here, in various

stages of repair, with a central command center rising from the

middle of the sprawling complex.


The Bothans all take a running leap off the edge of the platform,

small wings unfolding between their outstretched arms and torsos,

rapidly gliding directly towards the command tower. Boushh watches

them fall, then presses a button on his wrist. A small explosion

erupts near the edge of the Drydock complex, and power begins going

out like a cloak of darkness cast over the facility.

I, unsurprisingly, think this is a great idea for a scene (or else I wouldn't be promoting it). It builds off something already in the movie ("Many Bothan Spies..."). It introduces Boushh earlier, adding further surprise to the Leia reveal. It takes us back to Coruscant, a world we haven't seen since ROTS, helping tie the Celebrations back together a little better (note: I think the Celebrations are key for PT-OT integration, even Naboo). It provides the film with an exciting opening (You know, the action-y bits that I don't know how to write).

Like I said, I'll post the ending of the scene later.

 

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So far I really like this.  I have two thoughts for consideration at the present:

1) What will Boushh/Leia's involvement really be?  I like the idea of including her, but what will she do?  I'd suggest that she not be too knowledgeable, otherwise there'd be no need for the spies because she, a high leader in the Alliance, already has a great deal of info. She should be equally involved in the espionage itself, sneaking into whatever building or vault you have in mind.  Perhaps in fact she should be the only one to survive and escape with the information, with the four agents and whatever vessel they came from could be destroyed, thus justifying "Many Bothans died..."  Also, considering her desire to rescue Han, there should be some sort of ulterior motive.  She's already temporarily abandoning the Alliance for a short time to rescue the man she loves, putting personal loyalty above loyalty to her people (a very human trait).  If possible, I'd recommend that she get something out of it, such as some information about Jabba's court or something.

2) There is lots of enthusiasm for an opening with the Death Star.  I'm starting to really like the idea of the Bothan espionage, but we will need to consider scene placement in addition with the iconic DSII and star destroyer openings, assuming something of that nature wins the vote as well.

 

That said, you've written out an intelligent opening so far.  I am starting to really like the idea of a return to Coruscant (although I'm wondering if we should have it renamed Had Abbadon, as in the original ROTJ script, not renamed as if it were never Coruscant, but renamed like St. Petersburg became Stalingrad in the USSR--just a thought).  I like their cool tactics thus far.  I just plain like the idea of actually explaining what Bothans are to the many SW fans who don't know anything about EU (heck, there was no definition prior to the Thrawn trilogy).  I like the idea of having them wear helmets, reducing the need for masks, as I imagine with the sort of budget we will have, it'd be easier to make funny helmets the majority of the time while keeping it realistic enough as a movie.  I like seeing Boushh earlier, adding to the mystery.

If this idea passes, it will be a technical miracle for our little crew to achieve, beyond what I was truly expecting.  That said, I believe we can do it if we have enough participation and determination.

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darth_ender said:

So far I really like this.  I have two thoughts for consideration at the present:

1) What will Boushh/Leia's involvement really be?  I like the idea of including her, but what will she do?  I'd suggest that she not be too knowledgeable, otherwise there'd be no need for the spies because she, a high leader in the Alliance, already has a great deal of info. She should be equally involved in the espionage itself, sneaking into whatever building or vault you have in mind.  Perhaps in fact she should be the only one to survive and escape with the information, with the four agents and whatever vessel they came from could be destroyed, thus justifying "Many Bothans died..."  Also, considering her desire to rescue Han, there should be some sort of ulterior motive.  She's already temporarily abandoning the Alliance for a short time to rescue the man she loves, putting personal loyalty above loyalty to her people (a very human trait).  If possible, I'd recommend that she get something out of it, such as some information about Jabba's court or something.

2) There is lots of enthusiasm for an opening with the Death Star.  I'm starting to really like the idea of the Bothan espionage, but we will need to consider scene placement in addition with the iconic DSII and star destroyer openings, assuming something of that nature wins the vote as well.

 

That said, you've written out an intelligent opening so far.  I am starting to really like the idea of a return to Coruscant (although I'm wondering if we should have it renamed Had Abbadon, as in the original ROTJ script, not renamed as if it were never Coruscant, but renamed like St. Petersburg became Stalingrad in the USSR--just a thought).  I like their cool tactics thus far.  I just plain like the idea of actually explaining what Bothans are to the many SW fans who don't know anything about EU (heck, there was no definition prior to the Thrawn trilogy).  I like the idea of having them wear helmets, reducing the need for masks, as I imagine with the sort of budget we will have, it'd be easier to make funny helmets the majority of the time while keeping it realistic enough as a movie.  I like seeing Boushh earlier, adding to the mystery.

If this idea passes, it will be a technical miracle for our little crew to achieve, beyond what I was truly expecting.  That said, I believe we can do it if we have enough participation and determination.

To add to this thought, in ch. 9 of the novel, it talks about an attack run on "one of the larger Destroyers--"the Empire's main communications ship."  I think if we could colorize the woman pilot shots and include them, plus the Sullustan and the Mon Cal pilots, we could create a discernible dialogue and show an attack run on a star destroyer.  This wouldn't need to be a Victory, as I'm hoping, but simply a digitally modified Imperial/Imperator class with some big antennae or something added to the bridge tower.

Few realize that other classes were present other than the Executor and standard SDs.  For instance there was what is now termed the Tector-class, which has no hangar bay and instead was more heavily armed.

 

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doubleofive said:

Forgot my demo of Lando's Sacrifice, for you to consider.

http://youtu.be/6Am4g36Ugm8

This video is terrible...you misspelled "hangar" like "hanger"!

I'm just kidding :)  Interesting way to show it, as I'd imagined him dying closer to the exit.  If he does die, this may be the best way to do it.  But for the record, I think I'm personally sold on keeping him alive.  Votes have shown a pretty even split thus far, so get out and campaign!

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fishmanlee said:

fishmanlee said:

Oh just something I thought of, there are a bunch of alternates/unused music in ROTJ, if you want I can identify them and create mockups of the music placed against the film if you are interested.

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Sorry, hard to keep up with it all.  That would be fantastic, as I'm all for new music, and since we'll be adding scenes and possibly time to the overall movie, we'll need some good stuff.  Williams and the London Symphony Orchestra would be the best source when possible.

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fishmanlee said:

fishmanlee said:

Oh just something I thought of, there are a bunch of alternates/unused music in ROTJ, if you want I can identify them and create mockups of the music placed against the film if you are interested.

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There are a few that I know are listed as alternate (Sail Barge, for example) on the soundtrack. What else? A comprehensive list would be great.

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fishmanlee said:

darth_ender said:

Few realize that other classes were present other than the Executor and standard SDs.  For instance there was what is now termed the Tector-class, which has no hangar bay and instead was more heavily armed.

In the EU

Bothans in many ways are EU too.  Only the name is actually canonized.  Bothans may simply be a family name.  Or maybe a single human spy lost his pet gerbil-like Bothans as he retrieved the Death Star info.  But we're thinking about implementing EU when valuable, and the novelizations are the least EU of the EU in my mind.

And this photo is not EU.  That is the bottom of an actual SD model with no hangar bay:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ0coUtbue0&t=4m15s

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MrInsaneA said:

DominicCobb said:

ray_afraid said:

Haven't read through this entire thread, so I hope I'm not retreading to much water, but here's my idea for the opening of ROTJ that I posted in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread. I'm no good at posting pics to show exactly what I'm talking about, but I think you can follow...

Opening text would have to be altered to mention that Luke has returned to Dagobah to continue his training.

After opening text, we pan down to Darth Vaders Super Stardestroyer near the uncompleted Death Star.

Cut to Darth Vader in his mediation chamber talking to Luke telepathically through the force urging him to join him on the darkside.

Cut to the deleted scene of Luke in the cave working on his new lightsaber. Edit the exterior of the cave to resemble Dagobah. Luke shakes the voice in his head and continues working and then ignites his saber.

Cut back to the Super Stardestroyer and we see Vader's shuttle leave for the Death Star (why was he leaving from a standard Stardestroyer originally?) continue to the original opening scene with Vader and Jerrod.

After that scene, cut to Yoda's hut on Dagobah for Yoda's death scene. After Luke says "So I am a Jedi.", leave out Yoda's line about having to face Vader again and just cut to him saying "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." This way we get the idea that Luke has continued and now finished his training with Yoda. Yoda dies, the conversation with Obi-Wan is had, Luke takes off in the X-Wing and then cut to the Emperors arrival on the Death Star. That scene plays out like normal and then cut to the droids on Tattooine and continue from there. This all gives plenty of time between seeing Luke leave Dagobah and his arrival at Jabbas palace.

This would give the beginning of the film a more menacing tone with Vader still haunting Luke and more of a build up to the action at Jabba's palace. Agree? Disagree?

This would be my ideal opening.

Mine as well. This is a very good idea. Perfection, if I may venture to say so actually. Can't think of a better opening myself. 

I like this opening as well, and am divided on using this or the Bothans, or somehow tying the two together.  But one thought has occurred to me: we'd probably need to somehow show more Vader.  That would be pretty abrupt to simply show Executor, then cut to meditation chamber, then move on to Dagobah.  We'd need to see a different introduction, like the Executor far off but approaching the DSII, show Vader looking out the front windshield, then walking off, then next showing him in his meditation chamber.  As always, the issue is how do we get this footage without reusing old footage in an obvious manner?  Other than that, the idea plays smoothely, with the Executor much closer to the DSII later and Vader's shuttle approaching (and maybe removing Jerjerrod's line of it being an "unexpected pleasure," as it doesn't seem too unexpected in this sort of start to the film).

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darth_ender said:

MrInsaneA said:

DominicCobb said:

ray_afraid said:

Haven't read through this entire thread, so I hope I'm not retreading to much water, but here's my idea for the opening of ROTJ that I posted in the ESB/ROTJ Wishlist thread. I'm no good at posting pics to show exactly what I'm talking about, but I think you can follow...

Opening text would have to be altered to mention that Luke has returned to Dagobah to continue his training.

After opening text, we pan down to Darth Vaders Super Stardestroyer near the uncompleted Death Star.

Cut to Darth Vader in his mediation chamber talking to Luke telepathically through the force urging him to join him on the darkside.

Cut to the deleted scene of Luke in the cave working on his new lightsaber. Edit the exterior of the cave to resemble Dagobah. Luke shakes the voice in his head and continues working and then ignites his saber.

Cut back to the Super Stardestroyer and we see Vader's shuttle leave for the Death Star (why was he leaving from a standard Stardestroyer originally?) continue to the original opening scene with Vader and Jerrod.

After that scene, cut to Yoda's hut on Dagobah for Yoda's death scene. After Luke says "So I am a Jedi.", leave out Yoda's line about having to face Vader again and just cut to him saying "When gone am I, the last of the Jedi will you be." This way we get the idea that Luke has continued and now finished his training with Yoda. Yoda dies, the conversation with Obi-Wan is had, Luke takes off in the X-Wing and then cut to the Emperors arrival on the Death Star. That scene plays out like normal and then cut to the droids on Tattooine and continue from there. This all gives plenty of time between seeing Luke leave Dagobah and his arrival at Jabbas palace.

This would give the beginning of the film a more menacing tone with Vader still haunting Luke and more of a build up to the action at Jabba's palace. Agree? Disagree?

This would be my ideal opening.

Mine as well. This is a very good idea. Perfection, if I may venture to say so actually. Can't think of a better opening myself. 

I like this opening as well, and am divided on using this or the Bothans, or somehow tying the two together.  But one thought has occurred to me: we'd probably need to somehow show more Vader.  That would be pretty abrupt to simply show Executor, then cut to meditation chamber, then move on to Dagobah.  We'd need to see a different introduction, like the Executor far off but approaching the DSII, show Vader looking out the front windshield, then walking off, then next showing him in his meditation chamber.  As always, the issue is how do we get this footage without reusing old footage in an obvious manner?  Other than that, the idea plays smoothely, with the Executor much closer to the DSII later and Vader's shuttle approaching (and maybe removing Jerjerrod's line of it being an "unexpected pleasure," as it doesn't seem too unexpected in this sort of start to the film).

I feel like maybe the Bothan/Bouush thing could function as a trailer of sorts, like Christopher Nolan's IMAX prologues for the Batman films. It's too radically different and complicated to put in the film, but would provide some really cool backstory. 

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So I had some thoughts about integrating Madine into the battle as captain of the Liberty that gets blown up:

First show him before the jump to hyperspace, saying one of the lines he really says in the deleted scene: "May the force be with us all."

Show him again when everyone finds out "it's a trap," maybe even having him be the one to radio in to Home One and say, "Admiral, we have enemy ships in sector 47."

Finally, show him listening as one of his bridge crew reports an energy buildup in the Death Star, show the superlaser firing upon the Mon Cal cruiser, briefly show this picture:

with some screaming of course, and the whole thing fading to white and explosions on the bridge, then show the cruiser blow up.

Then when Lando says, "That blast came from the Death Star." Change his next line, while the camera is focused on Nien Nunb, to a whispered, "General Madine..."

Maybe.  Maybe not.

 

Also, I'm getting all the lines from the Lost Rebel pilots (they're all mostly the same anyway).  I'm thinking of multiple ways to construct a brief scene where two A-wing female pilots, and a Sullustan and Mon Calamari pilot, begin an attack run on the main communication star destroyer bridge.  Nothing drastic, just an opportunity to expand upon the space battle and make it more exciting.

I'm also trying to come up with some other space battle action, using the novel mostly as a premise, to expand the length of the battle.

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I'm working on a scripted clip that would describe this very thing :)

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This is what got cut off my Vote, I thought I would share it

Executor:

  1. A-wing fires missile at bridge - DominicCobb No Keep suicide A-wing run Capital Ships SHould Fire Missiles
  2. Y-wing uses bombs on Executor – Angel Yes

 

Lando:

  1. Let him die in DSII explosion – darth_ender, Ronster Yes Kill Him and Falcon
  2. Let him live as in original film – MrInsaneA NO But IF Killing him Does not Work then yes
  3. Make it appear as if he dies at first, then show later that he survives – aalenfae No

 

Ending:

  1. Anakin’s Force ghost appears at pyre scene instead of with Yoda and Obi-Wan – darth_ender No
  2. Put pyre scene at very end, after celebrations – darth_ender (Spence’s idea) Yes
  3. Remove Anakin’s ghost completely – Ronster, DominicCobb Yes
  4. Pyre scene takes place on Tatooine instead of Endor No
  5. Remove celebrations throughout galaxy, only showing them on Endor Yes

 

Some of these ideas I'm reading seem really hard to pulll off like filming loads of new scenes, with people in them Is the persons who's idea it is going to pay for that? I'm not paying for it... I think we need 2 new scenes for the begining, that are ambiguous which could make the structure work but what they should be?..

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noob 2 cents here:

I'm very much behind the idea of having Dagobah early in the movie with the premise of Luke continuing his training. Spence did this over at FanEdit and I think it works well. 

Elsewhere, I like to think of myself as a bit of an authority on Boba Fett *cough* and my position is Semi-Fett; that is, he would be ok in Jabba's Palace but he should not be on the sail barge. The character, aside from the added SE crap, was very much like his ESB persona in the palace. After that he becomes stupid.

It also makes sense for him to be alongside Jabba for potential work but he shouldn't involve himself that much (especially if you consider what happened to Jango).

What I'm really, firmly against is having Fett involved in some subplot that gets shoehorned in. That's just wrong on a few levels.

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Update on voting:

Since I'm for debating this thing till next Wed, I want everyone to know that if you submit a vote and later change your mind, just let me know and I will change how I've tallied your vote.  Change your mind as much as you want till next Wed.

Also, we've had several maybes, so if you want to vote maybe on something, that is okay.

Also, I've had to interpret some of your comments, given that they are not always specific yes, no, or maybe votes.  Depending on how committed you sounded, I put down what it sounded like you were saying for simplicity.

Also, the vote on ships present at the Battle of Endor has gotten varied responses, some saying yes to one vessel and no to another.  So I'm thinking I'm going to allow everyone to specify each vessel type they wish to include (i.e. Mon Cal cruisers, Victory SDs, B-wings, anything else you can think of).  If you simply say yes or no, I'm going to apply that to every class we come up with.

And also, please keep your votes personal.  I know I'm being stingy about this, but the reason is that when people see a trend, they tend to vote with that trend instead of going with their gut, even if that trend ends up not being real.  I want people to really vote with their hearts so we can explore the most popular options thoroughly before throwing them out.  If someone chooses to not vote the way they'd originally intended, it may be enough to sway the vote the other way.  Thanks for all who've participated so far, and I look forward to hearing from those who have not yet, particularly those involved in special effects, since everything hinges on their efforts.