
- Time
- Post link
The Aluminum Falcon said:
I love You_Too's color corrections with their warm 70's-esque palette.
Thanks! Though since I started my thread I got a lot of good constructive criticism which led me to make it more neutral and "correct".

Yes, here:
Guidelines for post content and general behaviour: read announcement here
Max. allowable image sizes in signatures: reminder here

To be honest, I might adjust You_Too's colours a little in some scenes, since his settings are the same for the whole movie and some scenes may need individual approach. But only a little, since I really like his colour corrections over all.

The Aluminum Falcon said:
I love You_Too's color corrections with their warm 70's-esque palette.
Thanks! Though since I started my thread I got a lot of good constructive criticism which led me to make it more neutral and "correct".

Hey, folks.
Here are the GOUT DVD-timed chapter files adjusted to fit Harmy's v1.0 trilogy. Originally made these for personal use, but then I figured Harmy and others may find them useful, so here they are.
These files will line up the chapters in the SW DEs with those in the GOUT DVDs so you can skip between the scenes instead of 5-minute intervals. Instructions for use are included.
Let me know if you have any trouble with them!
http://www.multiupload.com/34J0U2SOUN
-Darth T.

Good to hear Harmy & You_Too are collaborating on the colours of this project......'with their combined effort.....'
J

Awesome! I'd better make sure the soundtrack is finished in time to go along with it. ;)

OK, bad news.
I started editing and tried to export the first five minutes and found out that the video gets randomly one frame off. So sometimes, when I cut out frames or shots to colour correct them separately from the rest (eg. the flash frames), when rendered, the actual edit occurs one frame off from what I see on my timeline, thus applying the colour correction to a wrong frame, totally ruining it. This issue will only get to be even more of a problem when cutting in the despecialized shots, because then I could get one SE frame at the beginning or end of the despecialized shot.
The only way I could find, that might make sure this doesn't happen was using only uncompressed video for the editing. But that I simply cannot do, since I have big trouble fitting even the 15GB 720p mp4 file from You_Too that I'm currently using along with all the despecialized clips on my hard-drive.
But unless I somehow solve this issue, there's no point in continuing :-(
So any advice would be appreciated.

Terabyte external drive. I don't know how much they cost in your great Republic, but any kind of external drive could hold your files.
Star Wars Revisited Wordpress
Star Wars Visual Comparisons WordPress

Yeah, I know, that would be real nice but at the moment I can't afford an 8GB SD card for my phone, let alone a 1TB external. :-(
I just checked the prices and the cheapest are around 4000CZK, which comes to about $250. That's the kind of money I have to survive on a whole month (not counting accommodation).

I don't know what to say but then I don't understand the tech side of this at all.
So there may be no V2? I would really hate to see all that work go to waste. Is there some piece of hardware you need to help with this?I mean I don't know...?
Troy
looking for HDTV of the Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

I will be glad to get one and send it to you.
looking for HDTV of the Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

Thanks Troyig, conversation taken to PM.

Harmy said:
OK, bad news.

I just re-installed my OS, so there shouldn't be any junk I don't know about.
I work in Adobe Premiere CS4 (I can't use CS5, because I have 32bit OS). When it was installing, it installed a bunch of its own codecs and I didn't install any other codecs. The only other A/V software I installed was the latest version of Media Player Classic, After Effects 7.0 and Yamb.
My main video source is a H264 encoded 15GB 720p file. Other sources are lossless AVI clips rendered from AE.
When I render in H264 from Premiere, these problems are way worse and more frequent then when I render in lossless. The problem isn't present at all with the lossless files from After Effects (the crawl, the 1st flyby and so on), only with the H264 compressed files, so I'm assuming working with lossless only should solve the problem.
I work and render at 25fps.
Here's the whole list of properies of the H264 main source I'm currently using:
General
Complete name : D:\Media\STAR WARS\01 SW\1977 Episode IV - A New Hope 1080p_track1\BluRay_You_Too.mp4
Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media
Codec ID : isom
File size : 14.8 GiB
Duration : 1h 54mn
Overall bit rate : 18.4 Mbps
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-07 14:17:48
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-07 14:17:48
Writing application : Yamb 2.1.0.0 [http://yamb.unite-video.com]
Video
ID : 1
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 4 frames
Codec ID : avc1
Codec ID/Info : Advanced Video Coding
Duration : 1h 54mn
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 18.4 Mbps
Maximum bit rate : 40.0 Mbps
Width : 1 280 pixels
Height : 542 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.063
Stream size : 14.8 GiB (100%)
Writing library : x264 core 116 r2074 2641b9e
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x3 / me=dia / subme=1 / psy=1 / psy_rd=1.00:0.00 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / fast_pskip=1 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=12 / sliced_threads=0 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / interlaced=0 / bluray_compat=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=2 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / weightb=1 / open_gop=0 / weightp=1 / keyint=250 / keyint_min=23 / scenecut=40 / intra_refresh=0 / rc_lookahead=0 / rc=crf / mbtree=0 / crf=14.0 / qcomp=0.60 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=40000 / vbv_bufsize=40000 / crf_max=0.0 / nal_hrd=none / ip_ratio=1.40 / pb_ratio=1.30 / aq=1:1.0
Language : English
Encoded date : UTC 2011-11-07 14:17:48
Tagged date : UTC 2011-11-07 14:36:48

I may have understood half of what you just said.
looking for HDTV of the Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith. Also HDTV of The Lord of the Rings trilogy

Hi Harmy, should the footage not be 24fps?
J

Jaitea said:
Hi Harmy, should the footage not be 24fps?
J
That is what I was thinking as well. Harmy, didn't I read somewhere that you work in 30 fps and then lower it at the final step?
EDIT: Never mind, I thought the frame loss was when he was adding his despecialized scenes (thinking they were a higher fps than the rest of the video). Hopefully someone else may have the solution.

Harmy said:
And 25fps because I work with 25fps throughout the whole process and then convert to 23,976fps only when muxing the final AVCHD.

Hi Harmy, the error you're describing is very weird. 
I work a lot with premiere CS4, but didn't entcounter anything like that.
But, it is to be said, that H264 is generally not a editingfriendly format and one would be better off with antything else.
But converting the whole movie into losless is a monster, that's for sure. I'm also not a fan of converting into another lossy format, since you're always reencoding and something can be lost in the process...
I'm not sure what's the way to go. How did you manage with your other versions? Were they also H264? I assume... so what changed from then, when everything worked fine?
Is it something from your setup? Or is it just a different file? How is it different from version 1.0?
If you got enough horespower and space, you could reencode the wohle movie into losless.. ore make an imagesequenz out of it... Tifs, LZW compressed.. or even JPGS with best settings (I know premiere reads tif sequenzes, but Im not sure about jpgs.) You could split the movie into a certain number of chunks, so it's not one big thing.
I would be glad to offer a little donation for a new harddrive, etc.. and maybe others too.
Best!
Topper

Count me in for donations, if needed.

Hm... you get a 1TB Harddisc here in germany for about 80-100 Euros.
So... if about 10 people get together 10 bucks, we could make something happen for that man. How about it?

Sounds good to me! Probably this should be confined to PM's, from now on...

All I have left on my paypal account is $2.43 but I'll donate that if needed. Let's see what Harmy says first. I sent him some pm's earlier with some suggestions on things to try with Premiere, and told him to try with Sony Vegas if it doesn't work. So let's see what happens.

just to be clear, the problem has to do with the new blu ray footage?
so you could still release v2 using the hd broadcast as the source instead of the bluray?
to be honest harmy, i would have no problem with you using the hdtv instead of the bluray.
"I will laugh my ass off a hundred years from now when the only version of STARWARS people remember are harmys despecialized editions. They will project it on a 20' by 40' screen with perfect quality."

Don't panic. I think things have progressed a bit behind the scenes such that we're talking about a delay here and not a complete roadblock anymore. I'd like Harmy to confirm this of course.