John Williams vs. Prequel Trilogy — Page 2

twooffour said:

The Geonosis arrival scene was taken from the TPM opening, the Jedi battle from the Podrace (which didn't make it into the film), Yoda's arrival from the existing Podrace score (not sure if entirely, but the first few minutes for sure), and the AniPad love theme may have been used elsewhere, too.

The droid factory had its own track, though ;)

Here is a version of the Naboo sequence with the original music for you and all germans ;) http://www.multiupload.com/B7KRYILIF6

twooffour said:

Ah, many thanks for that!
(Always wanted to transcribe the Hangar music, so this may come in handy, as well :D)

Although I have to say, I kinda prefer the film version.
The music only setting in when the army is activated fits better than the same music setting in when they're basically standing around thinking what to do next.

Also prefer the "epic reveal" of Darth Maul, and the space battle opening has a more effective call-and-response when switching to the enemy ships.

This one would've worked, too, though, in a different way, and I like alternate takes and experimentation, so cool :D

2 things to consider:

1: this video is a bit outdated, more info has turned up, and more sections/cues have also turned up.

2: there is still some stuff missing, so this may not entirely reflect how the cut may have originally worked.

twooffour said:

Btw, a little off-topic, but if you want to a REAL "hacking up" of a music piece in a movie, look no further than the X2 opening.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrVdCkKxty4
0:55
1:48

Now compare to Mozart's original:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqaARDsiJv4
0:48-1:00
0:15


They cut out parts and it sounds horrible :D

I don't think thats hacking it up, I think thats a composer's arrangment of the piece for his score, or, he was subliminally inspired by the piece and forgot that it had already been written.

The "Gas Leak" scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590dquz3kPQ&feature=player_embedded

I think there is some good material written for these films as well as Crystal Skull, too bad the complete scores have not and will not be released.

Who says they will not? the guy who did compiled the RCA victor Star Wars releases said there is a new John Williams re-release in the works, plus Doug Adams (who wrote the 'Music of the Lord of the Rings Films" book and released the LOTR "Rarities Archive") also hinted at a SW project.

I am going by how every soundtrack release after the anthology was butchered or incomplete or improperly remixed, except for star wars itself.

We are talking about george lucas here and sony classical who have repackaged the same release multiple times.

They finally found the first gen masters for jedi but Lucas is too poor to have them transferred, just like he is too poor to restore the oot.

If 1941, Towering Inferno, Superman, Home Alone, Black Sunday, and Poseidon Adventure can get a complete release, I am sure Star Wars can.

twooffour said:

fishmanlee said:

The "Gas Leak" scene: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=590dquz3kPQ&feature=player_embedded

Blimey, I still find the final version better :D

This one seems to have some editing / timing issues towards the middle, but I'm mainly referring to the first 10 seconds or so :)

the those first 10 seconds in that video are silent in the film ;)

and here is the queen amidala scene (there are only some minor differences) and the droid invasion scene which was dialed out in the film, and had a portion missing on the OST: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H284Q7N8ZY

twooffour said:

On the second link, I guess I still prefer Jar Jar's introduction to be less epic, but it's quite okay :)

Might be an editing issue, but at the beginning of the invasion sequence, I quite like how, in the movie, the ships fly by the camera with nothing but percussion (the combination with the engine glissando doe sit) accompanying the scene, the orchestra joining only after the shot.

Aside from those, can't pinpoint any differences to the original atm... :)

the music when the queen appears on the viewing screen is extended a bit.

And here is a short alternate for Anakin's Test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAPuVmpTJS8

Yeah Ive heard about the music butchering in the PT.  What's unforgivable for me is Luca$ allowing Williams to conduct another "yoda's theme" and the insertion of it into AOTC during Anakins' circus-bad fighting in the geonosis droid factory.  Its an insult to the theme by adding it to that crap of a movie and is totally out of place.  "yoda's theme" always struck a chord with me when watching ESB and is one of my favorite parts in all the OOT.  Jackass Luca$.

twooffour said:

Nah, I think there was some kind of high-pitched G-string... err... strings playing a high G or something?
I remember it because when the lightsabers light up, they start buzzing at the same note... although it'd be funny if I remembered it wrong :D


But yea, the lack of loud music is better for the suspense, as well :)

Actually, those were synthetic strings, added by the editors/sound designers, much like the choir in AOTC's "Knowledge of the Force"/"Yoda vs. Dooku"/'Yoda Strikes Back"

Its about as good of an Idea as making the opening of the Star Wars main title, the same pitch/key as the Fox Fanfare.