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Wouldn't it be best to use the ESB 1080p German AVC transport stream if you're starting from scratch? That way you don't have to recompress a recompression and such.

Although it is the 2004 SE which means more trouble for you. Just a suggestion though.

 

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Harmy said:

No, it's just that for SW I'm just tweaking the current edit, while with ESB I'll be starting from scratch, colour correction and all.

Out of sheer curiosity, why are you starting from scratch with ESB and not just tweaking it like SW?

 

 

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Because I don't have all the original files for ESB.

And using Ady's ESB has two avantages: It already has some fixes and it is already colour corrected, so that I can tweak the colours much more easily that with the 04SE.

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First of all, thank you so much for bringing these terrific flicks back from the distant past the way they were meant to be seen. Lucas can take his overpriced and further ruined OT Bluray's and shove them. I now have the only versions I ever wanted so I can now retire my 80's vids, '95 LD's, 97 Vids, and even my 00's DVDs. :P I'll also be going to a local printing company to get high quality prints of your high quality covers before hosting a proper Star Wars evening with my fellow aficionados.

As touched upon by someone else, If you are ever in my neighborhood (Dublin, Ireland), let me know and I will reward you with copious amounts of Alcohol (I'll give you my car and house if you can "fix" episodes 1 & 2 :P ) On a different note, the ESB copy I burned seems to have some audio glitches and will lose sound for a second or two every so often.

Any ideas what might be causing this? I used ImgBurn to make the AVCHD disc and burned at AWS speed. ImgBurn didn't prompt me to change the settings to UDF 2.50 so I did it manually.

I used Verbatim DVD+R DL discs and they are for use in my PS3 (720p via HDMI). The sound glitches do not occur at the same spot every time so I know it's not a scratched disc or anything (It was a brand new DL).

So, any thoughts on what might be causing the audio glitches? My thinking is the AWS setting - Maybe it was autoset to write at too fast a speed? Or could I have missed something when I had to manually set UDS to 2.50? Or could it even just be a PS3 setting I've overlooked?

Normally I wouldn't ask but I only had 4 DL discs [/dilema]

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Thanks, Harmy.  You are a GOD among men.  These films haven't played better in years and they are now my go to versions.  Screw Lucas.
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So I tried twice more to burn RotJ, both times are extremely glitchy on my Blu-ray player, while the stream file is fine. Same with ESB, so I'm going to blame my Blu-ray player, though I haven't had this problem before.

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Downloading/seeding these now. These will make a great set of supplement discs for the official Blu-ray box. Or rather, the Blu-rays will make a nice set of supplement discs!

Looking forward to seeing your work on my TV, Harmy!

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I've spent all day looking for the standard definition release of this (since I don't yet have a Blu-Ray burner or player) but everywhere I go seems to point me to some corrupted files. I've used Jdownloader to re-download parts the archive over and over but I always get an error message saying there's a problem with vob files 2 and 5. There's a torrent of the SD edition but there's only one (achingly slow!) seeder. Could someone PM me and maybe point me in the right direction?

Anyway, thanks for this! I've been wanting to do something like this for years, and from what I've seen this looks perfect! This edition is what my future children will be watching!

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You know, I didn't want to be one of those guys, but I tried re-downloading it this morning and guess what--it worked perfectly. Hats off to ya, Harmy!

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Just an FYI, you don't need a Blu burner.  AVCHD is burned on a standard double layer DVD-9.  However, you do need a Blu player to watch it unless you use your computer to watch.

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Ric Olie said:

And if you're using your computer, you don't need any burner or disc.

:p

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Harmy said:

No, it's just that for SW I'm just tweaking the current edit, while with ESB I'll be starting from scratch, colour correction and all.

Hi Harmy,

Been lurkin' for a year now.  this is my first post to this forum.  Just wanted to say that your DeSpecialized ESB is amazing and Im having  alot of fun right now watching it! 

so cool to hear Luke say "your lucky you don't taste very good" again after all these years.  Can't wait to see the escape from cloud city without the butchered pacing. 

on my 47" LED tv, it looks beautiful - we never dreamed we could see a custom edit of a movie that looks better than a DVD, let alone in HD.  I guess lucas is not the only one who finally has technology catching up to a vision ;)  Can't wait to see SW and ROTJ

Thanks again for all your talent and hard work! 

click here if lack of OOT got you down

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Hi guys i'm new to the forums! Good stuff to be found here i see. Harmy, could you please send me the links to your previous edits? Very curious about ESB and ROTJ, i'm downloading SW right now via a .torrent so i won't be needing that

 

Thanks in advance!

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I just wanted to point out a quirk about the ESB DVD 5 despecialized version. So I guess this is for Chewtobacco...

For some reason, the pan and scan flag is set for the disk. So if your DVD player happens to be on the P&S auto setting, it'll zoom in on the picture.

The Jedi disk is fine (don't know about ANH), but I was freaking out trying to figure out what was wrong. Figured out there are P&S flags that authors can set for their disks and that people at home can activate with their DVD players. For some reason, my player was programmed to accept them, thus the zoomed in image. But a quick setting change fixed all of that.

So this is probably just one of those 1 in a million things that MIGHT happen to someone using the DVD5 version, but I thought I'd give a head's up.

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My first LD transfer had the same issue. I hadn't told the authoring software to force letterboxed mode when the player display type is set to 4:3 P&S.

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Mavimao said:

I just wanted to point out a quirk about the ESB DVD 5 despecialized version. So I guess this is for Chewtobacco...  For some reason, the pan and scan flag is set for the disk. So if your DVD player happens to be on the P&S auto setting, it'll zoom in on the picture.

Thanks, but that's what supposed to happen if your player is set to pan and scan; it won't come in to play for anyone whose player is set to 16:9.  I take it you have a 4:3 TV?  Just set your player to 4:3 not 4:3 P&S.  A number of commercial anamorphic widescreen discs have this setting.

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.  I guess lucas is not the only one who finally has technology catching up to a vision ;)   

 

LOL

I was wondering if any one had thought of doing a Preservations

documentary. But doing it as a spoof on the Special Edition

Intro (1997

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYxind2X47o
 

 
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Chewtobacca said:

Mavimao said:

I just wanted to point out a quirk about the ESB DVD 5 despecialized version. So I guess this is for Chewtobacco...  For some reason, the pan and scan flag is set for the disk. So if your DVD player happens to be on the P&S auto setting, it'll zoom in on the picture.

Thanks, but that's what supposed to happen if your player is set to pan and scan; it won't come in to play for anyone whose player is set to 16:9.  I take it you have a 4:3 TV?  Just set your player to 4:3 not 4:3 P&S.  A number of commercial anamorphic widescreen discs have this setting.

Really? I've never seen a DVD that implements the 4:3 Pan & Scan option. A "centre of interest" offset is supposed to be encoded in the video stream, otherwise you just end up with the sides cropped and the scanned window stays centered (does not "pan").

It is much more common (and preferable, IMO) to author for only 4:3 letterboxed. Although the setting is pretty obsolete these days when most people have 16:9 TVs.

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Moth3r said:



Chewtobacca said:


Mavimao said:

I just wanted to point out a quirk about the ESB DVD 5 despecialized version. So I guess this is for Chewtobacco...  For some reason, the pan and scan flag is set for the disk. So if your DVD player happens to be on the P&S auto setting, it'll zoom in on the picture.


Thanks, but that's what supposed to happen if your player is set to pan and scan; it won't come in to play for anyone whose player is set to 16:9.  I take it you have a 4:3 TV?  Just set your player to 4:3 not 4:3 P&S.  A number of commercial anamorphic widescreen discs have this setting.


Really? I've never seen a DVD that implements the 4:3 Pan & Scan option. A "centre of interest" offset is supposed to be encoded in the video stream, otherwise you just end up with the sides cropped and the scanned window stays centered (does not "pan").

It is much more common (and preferable, IMO) to author for only 4:3 letterboxed. Although the setting is pretty obsolete these days when most people have 16:9 TVs.


Yes, I have a 4:3 television for the record. My story: before I changed the video setting on my DVD player from NormalPS to NormalLB, every scope film played fine, even ROTJ DVD5 Despecialized. However, I'd recently downloaded ESB DVD5 and popped it in the player and it played back in what seemed like 1.66/1.85. I could tell that the image was zoomed in and the sides were cut off. I wondered what the problem was since this had never happened to me before with my other films, and the ESB disc played fine in my computer.

So I googled my issue and learned about the P&S flag for DVDs, changed the setting on my DVD player and ESB now works great!

In any case, it's so minor an issue, no one should lose any sleep over it. I thought it would be helpful to write about my experience in case anyone else runs into this problem and comes running to this forum looking for a solution (ie: change your dvd player video setting!)

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Moth3r said:  Really? I've never seen a DVD that implements the 4:3 Pan & Scan option. A "centre of interest" offset is supposed to be encoded in the video stream, otherwise you just end up with the sides cropped and the scanned window stays centered (does not "pan").

I assumed that the behavior was a response to a sequence_display_extension of 540x480 being written in the MPEG-2 header info, which probably means that I inadvertently set the colorimetry in HCenc (which I shouldn't have done). I doubt that I flagged the VOBs themselves as 4:3, but I suppose it's possible.

I understand what you mean about forcing letterbox mode if the player is set to P&S now: if one doesn't encode a centre of interest then you have to do this or in P&S mode there is no panning. 

EDIT:  Moth3r, how do you determine whether a centre of interest has beeen encoded into the MPEG-2 stream?  Restream doesn't seem to show it.

I'll PM Harmy for the links to the DVD and AVCHD and take a look, and if necessary re-author the disc, but most commercial discs that I test seem to have a sequence_display_extension of 540x480 if they take NAB into account.

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Mavimao, if your 4:3 TV have a 16:9 option, some do, you can set your videosettings on your DVD player to 16:9 to get a slightly better image.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com

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msycamore said:


Mavimao, if your 4:3 TV have a 16:9 option, some do, you can set your videosettings on your DVD player to 16:9 to get a slightly better image.


I could, but then I would have to change the settings back for my girlfriend who doesn't get technology...

Plus it's a 20 inch screen. Not exactly quality stuff.

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