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Wampa attack ! Hell YEAH !
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Wampa attack! Hot damn!
And that scene of Luke at the vaporator watching the battle overhead exists in color after all!
This could be a fan editor's dream come true.
Where were you in '77?
Wampa attack ! Hell YEAH !
Someone at the HTF posted a download link. Nice to have as the SW.com video player gives my browser seizures.
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SilverWook said:
And that scene of Luke at the vaporator watching the battle overhead exists in color after all!
And from the same camera angles which were used on the trading cards !
And they were in color !
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I was hoping they would get some restoration, but they look interesting nonetheless.
Call me completely untrusting of anything Officially Released By Lucas, but I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the damage & dirt were added for effect, or at least intentionally left for that same reason. It would certainly work perfectly for continuing the "I can't restore the 1977 version, it's too far gone" lies.
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An actual BATTLE at the Endor bunker?! Hell yeah!
There seems to be pretty good action that could've fitted in the movies. For example, less Ewoks, more bunker battle and B-Wings!
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That wampa is hilarious. I'm not sure how Empire would have gone with that still in it.
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The Endor bunker scene looks pretty good, hopefully Lucas will finish the special effects the way the did for the prequel DVD'S.( yeah right)
Why let LFL do the effects half-assed when we can go full-assed ourselves!
(that didn't come out right)
Anyway, this is a rare opportunity to have basically original Star Wars elements for us to clean up and do what we will. Awesome.
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doubleofive said:
Why let LFL do the effects half-assed when we can go full-assed ourselves!
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Anchorhead said:
Call me completely untrusting of anything Officially Released By Lucas, but I wouldn't be remotely surprised if the damage & dirt were added for effect, or at least intentionally left for that same reason. It would certainly work perfectly for continuing the "I can't restore the 1977 version, it's too far gone" lies.
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Lucas could have released this footage on the home video market at any point from 1982 onwards.
I am just grateful to see it.
The dirt and scratches actually give it character.
Dirt ,scratches,weave,occasional soft focus(intentional or otherwise) are synonimous with film.
I remember watching the Two Towers at a theater in febuary 2003(2 months after it's release) and the print was full of scratches.
I am pretty sure when I saw SW and ESB back to back in 81' those prints were full of scratches too.
But quite frankly, who cares.
I would hazard a guess that the print you saw of SW in 77' was scratched up as well.
I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.
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danny_boy said:
Lucas could have released this footage on the home video market at any point from 1982 onwards.
I am just grateful to see it.
The dirt and scratches actually give it character.
Dirt ,scratches,weave,occasional soft focus(intentional or otherwise) are synonimous with film.....
I would hazard a guess that the print you saw of SW in 77' was scratched up as well.
Correct on all points and I agree. Not the point I was trying to make.
Regarding who cares; I do. Character of film vs digital is wonderful - and I'm all for it. However, does it really have to be left in as bad a condition as possible? For the record, I don't know what it takes to clean old film, so maybe it does have to be left that way. My point was - I'm suspect.
I had no idea a battle in the Endor Bunker scene excisted!!! Totatlly awesome! ^_^
It would be interesting to compare the damaged areas in this footage with the damage to the monochrome footage from Behind The Magic.
How much this could be restored using the Blu-Ray as is a source is not something I'm qualified to comment on.
Cleaning old film, physically, is easy. Scratches can be removed with a rank transfer. It looks like neither was done. But they still are wonderful. Better than if they used DNR like the gout.
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From what we've heard about the amount of care for items in the the archives I actually doubt intentional damage.The original Luke Vaporator scene had deep camera scratches. At one point the sandstorm sequence was supposedly put in a dumpster.
There is no reason that these should be presented this way. Especially if this is their "Complete" set. If they can go back and waste money on finishing deleted Prequel scenes then I think they could have afforded a little cleanup on some deleted scenes. Oh wait, at Lucasfilm film cleaning and restoration costs 5000% more than everywhere else. It must have been too expensive.
It looks like this is only going to be a selection of scenes. Why couldn't they finally release everything together? Honestly, I think at some point they should release the original rough edit.
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The bunker scene looks usable. If its in 1080p and has audio we could work with or cut around, we could maybe color correct it and expand the Endor battle! Not having the blaster effects to figure out who is shooting whom would be a challenge, but it doesn't seem impossible.
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Needless to say, this is going to open a whole new chapter of work for this site. Full-assed work.
SO COOL!
I hope that somebody inserts these scenes into the movies, in whatever quality possible, just because they look so cool (even the wampa!)
I'm totally gonna try my hand at restoring these this winter. Don't know how well it'll turn out, but we'll see - I've been looking for an excuse to teach myself digital restoration, anyway. (I'm leaning toward going into restoration instead of editing as a career at this point.)