What do you LIKE about the Prequels? — Page 7

Tyrphanax said:

Thanks to this thread, I now see that all faked accents in movies are racial stereotypes with intent to offend.

Wherever you got that idea.

Tyrphanax said:

...I will now proceed to be pissed at Christian Bale for his obviously offensive portrayal of Americans in nearly all of his films.

I was offended by Bale's Batman voice too - it ruined the movie(s).

Gaffer Tape said:

If you really feel that compelled to flatter yourself, fine.

Wait, where did I flatter myself?
All I said was that you completely misread just about everything I've written in the last couple days, judging by your replies - that doesn't mean my posts were somehow terribly good.

But I stand firmly by everything I wrote, and I have no reason to be embarrassed that you rambled in response to it.

The fact that you demonstratively declare to be standing firmly and proudly by a clear misconception on your part, is what you should be embarassed about.

All I said was that the inclusion of aliens with recognizeable ethnic / national features from actual cultures on Earth, shattered suspension of disbelief by "suggesting" social commentary.
I've never insisted that it had anything to do with such characters being "bad", or "annoying" (the Neimoidians just happen to be), or that any of that was inherently "offensive".

You response above indicated that you hadn't got ANY of this, because you just couldn't be bothered.

The only thing I'm embarrassed about is being naive enough to defend you when you first started posting here.

I honestly don't even remember that.
However, if you actually "defended" something I wrote, could it be that it was because you actually found my posts valid? Because otherwise you'd be a sycophant. ;)

I only deleted my comment because I realized it was useless to attempt to have a polite and intelligent conversation

In order to even begin to have an "intelligent conversation", you need to first pay attention to what the other party is saying.
What is "useless" is contuing to reply even though you clearly can't be bothered with that.

with someone who so richly deserves to get kicked in his pretentious e-nuts (thank you, Frinky!).  'Kay?

You know it's funny, I don't recall saying anything about "kicking your stupid arrogant ass" to you, or to Frink, anywhere in this thread.
Nor do you see me preaching politeness, or getting "offended" at "respectless" treatment.

But then again, seeing as how pointing out that you haven't been paying basic attention already gets you offended, your reaction isn't a surprise.

PS: Don't "bother" addressing how inept your Nien Numb example was, just keep complaining about my "pretentiousness".

OMG, the DRAMA!!!

:D

twooffour said:

Nice fail!  And I'm not even going to bother explaining why, although you will be the only one here who doesn't understand why.

TV's Frink said:

Dear Moth3r,

If I were to kick twooffour in his pretentious e-nuts, would that be considered a personal attack?

Thanks,
TVF

Dear Moth3r,

Still waiting for your reply.  If it helps, I will try to include some type of on-topic response in said e-nut kicking.

Warmest Regards,
Television's Frink

TV's Frink said:

twooffour said:

Nice fail!  And I'm not even going to bother explaining why, although you will be the only one here who doesn't understand why.

Actually, I can imagine a good number of reasons "why", and none of them hold water.


;)

TV's Frink said:

TV's Frink said:

Dear Moth3r,

If I were to kick twooffour in his pretentious e-nuts, would that be considered a personal attack?

Thanks,
TVF

Dear Moth3r,

Still waiting for your reply.  If it helps, I will try to include some type of on-topic response in said e-nut kicking.

Warmest Regards,
Television's Frink

He probably still doesn't like me for demolishing his laughable posts comparing TPM to MiB, and calling him a "dunce" on that same thread (that was then), so he'll probably say no.

Having that said, if you actually COULD kick me in my e-nuts, you would've long done that instead of beating around the bush after quitting reading after the first few lines.

Bruce Spence was way cool, too :)

Star Wars was the first movie I remember seeing as a kid back in 1977, and I remember the rest of the originals from my childhood as well.  Oddly enough, my experience of them goes way beyond the movies.  Since I didn't have a VCR until the 1990's, I probably read the novels more than saw the movies.  I also eagerly listened to the radio dramas as well, and all of those sources are kinda combined in my head.

And then in 1999 came TPM.  Yippee!  A Star Wars Movie!  But like many of us, it wasn't the Star Wars Movie I was hoping for.  I even got the books for the first couple, like I did as a kid.  And if you think Jar-jar was bad on screen, try reading a page of him...

But on to what I liked.

John Williams's Score - even if there was that issue of the soundtrack for TPM having a track called the death of Qui-Jon, which got out before the movie.  Still, it was great to have that type of music again.

Eye candy a plenty.  This lead to problems in pacing, but it in certain moods, it is great.

Acting wise, I liked Ewan McGregor's Obi-wan, with the major exception of how dense he was with the mystery in AOTC.  Ian McDiarmid was great as well, especially as the tempter in ROTS.

I think there is a quite interesting story in Anakin's tragic fall - namely his warped love.  As a rather traditional Christian, I want to see it more along the lines of the way Augustine talked about the death of a loved friend in his Confessions than the probably more Buddhist conception probably behind the story here, the twin stories of Anakin's fall because of desire to save the ones he loved and his redemption through discovering his son's love is an interesting idea.  The problem is that GL did so bad with the Love story that it gets in the way of this.

Darth Bizarro said:

TV's Frink said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

 

Darth Bizarro said:

Yoda's Lightsaber!  The primary reason why almost all episode 2 and 3 fanedits fall flat for me.

Boo-urns!

 

Yeah, that's a major fail.

I love you too.

Sorry, my heart belongs to the sea.

What about isolated, out-of-context images from I-III? There's some good ones, stuff that is like the idealized prequel in my pre-99 brain:

So I'm among the minority here that finds redemptive value in the prequels despite my disappointment with each of them and their many flaws. I've been considering TPM lately in particular. There are many juvenile moments, bad acting, the lame midichlorian excuse, and a weak story in many regards. However, I'm starting to warm up to the film, even all those things I just mentioned. It has many beautiful shots (particularly with the aristorcratic Naboo), interesting ships designs, and a fun lightsaber fight. Even more significant to me in recent viewings is that to me it does carry a Star Wars feel to it, perhaps better than the faster paced Episodes II and III. It uses real miniatures and one can easily tell the difference. The lightsabers remind me of the originals with their flicker. The Jedi actually seem to be powerful.

In fact, among all the criticisms of the film, my biggest problem with it is not what most people say. Rather than Jar Jar or intracellular symbionts, my biggest complaint is the strange pacing: it cuts from scene to scene far too quickly, yet still feels too slow. I don't mind slow films if they are cut in a similar fashion, but somehow this movie is fast and boring at the same time.

But at the end of the day, I still feel like I'm watching Star Wars when I see Episode I. That's something I like about it.

I actually liked most of the designs of all three of the films...the starfighters, Jango, pod racers, Republic craft etc....It was the CG creature design, battledriods, CG Stormtroopers along with poor storytelling & direction that spoiled the movies for me

J

I got all 3 "art of" books, there's some really great, evocative work in there, Mccaig's in particular. If the movie had been able to execute that stuff in a more convincing way, (and the characters would just shut up), you'd really have something. ( The teaser for attack of the clones that had no dialogue is my favorite prequel. )

I actually loved episode 3. The first one was meh, mediocore, the second one was actually pretty good and decent, episode 3 is the best of all of the 6 star wars films/movies!!!!!!

Episode 3 kicked some serious ass!!!!!