Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 307

I know some have said that they see flaws in Tatooine as the setting for the first segment of ROTJ, for various reasons.

1. If they were rendevouxing there at the end of ESB, what took them so long?
2. It shrinks the universe.
3. The Yuma desert is not as dynamic as Tunisia.

But there's no reason Jabba has to be on Tattooine. Is it possible to turn Tatooinne into another planet? Perhaps re-matte the sky with weird clouds, or make it an odd color, tint the sand to make it red maybe.

The crawl would have to be re-done, as well as cutting Luke's line "I grew up here you know." Other than that the changes would just be cosmetic.

I don't know if this is doable, or even necessarily a good idea, but it occured to me watching ROTJ this weekend.

timdiggerm said:

That does leave the "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." line a little strange, but not unsalvageable.

 Not at all. They met at Tatooine and started searching. They knew Jabba had dealings there. They couldn't well start the search in the Medical Frigate.

timdiggerm said:

Right, and that could briefly be told in the opening crawl. "After tracking the vile gangster, JABBA THE HUTT, to the remote world of [MADE UP NAME]..."

 "After tracking the vile gangster, JABBA THE HUTT, to the remote world of Medupnaym..."

I rather like the idea that Luke's "I'm never coming back to this place again" get's thrown in his face by the winds of time.

It would have been more significant though if the final battle of the war was over the planet that Luke and his friends thought was boring and couldn't get away from quick enough but that's for another universe.

Zoinks! Could you imagine it!

Jawas rewiring AT-ATs to fire on TIEs, Sandpeople riding Krayt dragons swallowing stormies.

Somebody get with this crazy shite ASAP!

As I said one for a different universe.

If George had written it differently (without the need of another Death Star being built in the same place as the final battle) it would have been fine.

Knowing Luke would eventually rescue Han, Vader could send a fleet there as a trap for him but Luke being a Jedi might anticipate this and the fast growing Rebel fleet could swoop in to capture Vader.

Palpatine being Palpatine could send a superweapon or two to kick in the Rebel fleet.

Oh well....

I did suggest having an Imperial fleet come out of hyperspace when the Rebels leave Tatooine and try to capture them but this was dismissed as being too much like ANH (and ROTJ is too much like ANH as it is even if it would make sense).

If we're talking about changing Tatooine to a different planet in Jedi, why not consider making it into Hutta - the Hutt home world?

I think some of the concept art for that new game they're making looks quite nice:

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/hutta-1

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/hutta-0

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/hutta

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/20090220_004

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/hutta-mansion

http://www.swtor.com/media/concepts/hutta-rockwalls

Those pictures highlight so much of what is topsy turvy about the EU.

The sail barge in ROTJ looks that way because it's supposed to evoke our cinematic collective memory of maritime sailing ships from old pirate movies (sailing on a Dune Sea instead of a briny sea).

But now the sails and the railings are Hutt architectural styles.

It would be as easy to make the footage look like those concepts as it would to make the Endor footage look like a desert planet.

I hate to ruin everyone's fun, but there is a HUGE problem that no one is seeing about moving the final battle to Tatooine, Darth Vader hates sand.

Only his hatred can destroy all sand.

timdiggerm said:

That does leave the "I'll meet you at the rendezvous point on Tatooine." line a little strange, but not unsalvageable.

Tatooine is never mentioned by name in ANH (I don't think), so it could be anywhere really. I always liked the idea that luke's desert homeworld didn't even have a name!

IF jabba is portrayed as an old villain in the reworked PT, aka, the old big bad, geonosis (or whatever it is changed to) could be this alternative new world? Could be really flash in the PT, and just a burnt husk in ROTJ.

TML said:

I hate to ruin everyone's fun, but there is a HUGE problem that no one is seeing about moving the final battle to Tatooine, Darth Vader hates sand.

What are you talking about?  It's Anakin that hates san--

Oh.

Threepio hates sand as well (he is Luke and Leia's brother and Vader's son...thanks George).

Ok, first, what the hell is this thing? Why is it only perched on the wall in the scene where Han and Luke get "sentenced" and nowhere else....who's genius idea was it to mount a giant tongue on the wall.......and who else wants to see it gone?