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Harmy's STAR WARS Despecialized Edition HD - V2.7 - MKV (Released) — Page 15

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sign me up for the work print testing Harmy

 

Can hardly wait for the awesomeness ;-D

"I will laugh my ass off a hundred years from now when the only version of STARWARS people remember are harmys despecialized editions.  They will project it on a 20' by 40' screen with perfect quality."

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joshdv said:

sign me up for the work print testing Harmy

 

Can hardly wait for the awesomeness ;-D

 

 Me too!...  if its no bother, of course

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Well, I'm rendering the WP now but it's gonna take quite long to render and I'm going away this weekend, so I won't be able to start uploading until Sunday evening.

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Harmy,

 

Thanks for the link to Empire - I will be watching it this weekend.  I will gladly test out your workprint for Star Wars once it is uploaded.

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are you going to use the original descent into the deathstar trench with horrid jump cut? because adywan actually fixed that scene on his revisited edit if your interested. looks much better.

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eros said:


are you going to use the original descent into the deathstar trench with horrid jump cut? because adywan actually fixed that scene on his revisited edit if your interested. looks much better.
Despecializing means not using fixed things. If anything, we need to break more effects!

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Harmy,

In the past you said you'd be using straight upscales of the GOUT for the battle of Yavin shots. But with the success you had replacing the starfield in the shot of the X-Wing approach, have you reconsidered?

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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I considered that from the beginning. Actually in the planning stages I went through the battle shot by shot and most of the shots unfortunately have very fast moving backgrounds, so it is impossible to do anything like that for them. There's one more shot where I already did that and that's the shot of the fighters pulling away from the DS in the end. And there are a few more shots I decided to despecialize in After FX, but in the workprint they're just upscaled GOUT, as I have yet to finish them.

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That's totally understandable.

Will you be darkening the blacks in the starfields of the GOUT upscales at all? One of the things I noticed in the despecialized X-Wing approach was how much deeper the darkness of space was, compared to the GOUT.

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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Well, yeah, I'm increasing the contrast a bit - it is an absolutely crucial step in integrating the GOUT footage into the 2004 master. It is a question of finding a balance between making the picture look less washed out and losing detail in the dark areas.

I was planning to do those DS approach shots the same way but the blinking of the stars was made all the more obvious by increasing the contrast because of the background being static (well, almost static, when you look closely, the starfield is actually moving slightly to the left in both of those shots and I had to track and simulate that movement when I was replacing it). 

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Cool. Thanks for taking the time to answer all of my annoying questions.

;)  <------

You know of the rebellion against the Empire?

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No problem.

I finally finished encoding the workprint and I think it looks very good over-all but I already found some mistakes that I'd like to correct before I release it even as a workprint but I should still have it up by Monday morning :-)

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Harmy, i see that you are having the same flickering problems i was with the crawl in after effects. Well i did manage to cure a lot of it before i went down the 3DsMax route. If you are doing your project in 1080p then you will need to create the crawl in 4k then scale it back down to 1080p outside of after effects because it has a really bad scaler. Now because you are using a 3d layer you should be able to use depth of field to give the text a slight blur as it recedes into the distance, which should cure most of the flickering problem, although at 4k you might find that there is hardly any flickering anyway, but this depends on the quality of the text being used. If your text is a transparent image then you could always try edge blur if depth of field doesn't work. Other things you could try is by adding an extra layer of the text crawl underneath and mask the  bottom layer so that the bottom blurred layer only starts to show as the text is starting to flicker (which would be the upper portion of the text to start with)

Hope this helps

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Thank you very much for your advice. You can read about the way I worked here.

I did already take the last route you suggested (with 3 layers actually as I also sharpened the bottom part slightly) but at the point where the flicker was eliminated, it was already too blurry. I thought about outputing in higher resolution but I don't think my computer is capable of working with 4K, I'm working at 720p and one of the reasons for that is that 1080p in AE is too much for my poor old CPU to handle and also the elements I used for the crawl are created at 720p only.

I also couldn't get the depth of field effect to work in 3D, it applied the blur on the text in 2D, so in the whole shot the top third of the lines was blurred and the bottom untouched.

Also, in After Effects, I just had the original crawl underneath mine and timed it to that, would that be possible to do in the 3D program you're using? I could supply the 2D crawl as a PSD image and I'd basically just need that to recede at the correct speed under correct angle over the EpIV SE HD starfield and I could do the rest in AE. Would that be possible? If that's not possible, that's fine and don't worry about it (I know you have enough on your plate already what with the tooth and all) I'm quite satisfied with the way it looks now.

 

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Also, I changed my mind about the workprint because I realized that because it's got just 3GB, I can upload it here and the sooner it's out there, the sooner I'll get the feedback I need and will be able to release the real deal :-)

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OK, the workprint's up. I already PMed everyone who said they'd help, I hope I didn't forget anyone.

It is uploaded to a Czech file-sharing server but you can switch it to English in the upper right corner. Or just import the links to JDownloader :-)

It's a 3GB 25fps MP4 with PAL GOUT audio @ 160Kbps AAC, so don't expect very good A/V quality - the quality should be good enough to spot problems but is in no way final.

Like in the ESB workprint, there is a little window with the GOUT in the upper left corner of the video for comparison. I need you to look for colour inconsistencies, missing frames (like black frames where they shouldn't be, jump-cuts etc.) and any SE changes I may have missed.

When you give me your feedback, please be specific  - vague general comments aren't very helpful - tell me the time of the shot you're talking about. Please report anything that you don't like - I may say no to some suggestions but it's better than to have people complain about something about the finished product, when it could have been fixed if it was pointed out to me earlier.

Thank you very much for your help, guys, I appreciate it.

And if there's anyone else willing to help and check out the workprint, please let me know.

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No problem.

I finally finished encoding the workprint and I think it looks very good over-all but I already found some mistakes that I'd like to correct before I release it even as a workprint but I should still have it up by Monday morning :-)

Bitchin'. I hope that after the Despecialized Trilogy is complete a line of collectables follows. There are so many Star Wars collectables and so few Harmy's Despecialized collectables. A MOC vintage style Harmy figure is probably too much to hope for, but man there should at least be a Harmy's Despecialized t-shirt.

This is so god damned exciting man. I've been coming to this site for years, as have most of the rest of the folks here, only to have our hopes dashed every time it looks like we're getting close to having the Original Trilogy back. This is just so friggin' cool man. I'm gonna go watch Empire again.

HARMY RULES

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I don't know about that, but I'm planning some supplements when it's done :-)

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The best supplement that you could supply would be a Harmy's technical commentary track. It would rule to have an audio file (even a simple mp3) that could be synced with the film where you explain all of the changes and improvements that you made. I'm not just blowing smoke up your ass man, there are many people here who would REALLY appreciate that. Your work obviously stands on its own, but to have a real time account of what went into your masterpieces while watching them would just be to cool for words.

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I'm not so sure about that, because there isn't enough time to explain how a shot was done while it's actually happening, because sometimes a shot that has like 2 seconds takes a few hours or even days to despecialize. I was actually thinking about something along the lines of the PDE Trailer but taking it a step or two further :-)

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If he touches you his touch will turn you gay. He won't just touch you either, he will grab you and he won't let go.

That turns you beyond gay.

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I tested out some of those shots and the only one I'll end up trying to improve is this one (GOUT top, DesEd bottom):

 

 

Sadly it looks better as a still than it does in movement because I wasn't able to get rid of the flickering of the stars because the starfield is rotating in a weird way and I just couldn't manage to track it's movement believably.