Yet another preservation, Star Wars Trilogy: Throwback Edition (* unfinshed project *) — Page 2

From the Sept 1993 issue of Widescreen Review, as quoted here, we know that the 1993 laserdisc master was created on a Rank-Cintel Mark IIIC telecine. According to Wikipedia this device scanned the film progressively then used a scan converter to output interlaced video.

Noise reduction and dirt concealment was performed by a Digital Vision DVNR-1000.

Watch your white levels, the Tantive is looking rather yellow. Also, even in small screen, it's looking rather sharp - easy on the edge enhancement?

the sunset scene, judt decide what you like best.

Moth3r, the frames may well have been scanned progressivly, I don't know. The "jaggies" I thought were most likely due to the fields being scanned individually with the alignment slightly off, though if they scanned it at PAL progressivly and then resized each field individually I imagine that could have also producced the result? If that's what they did it could explain why DVNR was used more on the NTSC LDs (trying to remove the jaggies using it rofl?)

There is one area that can be significantly improved upon, and that is color correction/restoration. The colors in the GOUT are much more washed out than the original colors in the films.

Fortunately, it seems much of this can be restored. But in order to get the colors close to their accurate levels, precise corrections would have to be made that boost and adjust various specific colors within specific color range values. So that only those things within a scene that need to be corrected by that amount are affected, while the other colors are adjusted separately. And this would require scene-by-scene color correction (because the degree of correction needed for various colors is different for different scenes).

So, if you want to make precise manual corrections to the GOUT DVD set, this is exactly where those efforts would be needed. In fact, there's no other way to do it. One correction applied to a whole movie will not deliver those properly saturated color levels without messing up the flesh tones in the movie. The goal being to restore the original strong lively colors that the Star Wars trilogy has, without altering the proper light and natural skin of the people in the movies. But only a precisely controlled scene-by-scene correction can do that.

Read this thread for lots of great pictures and discussion on how to get the original film colors back to their correct appearance. I hope it's of some help. :)

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/GOUT-Automated-Theatrical-Colouring-and-a-Reference-Guide/topic/12289/

Dunedain, if the color correction could be applied using an avisynth script, then the versitility would allow people to easily apply it to their own rips. I agree about the colors, but the SE has an awful blue-tint which is a lot worse IMHO (creative decsion by mr lucas no doubt).

From the film screening of the pre-SE print of The Empire Strikes Back (excellent pictures from which can be seen in that thread I gave a link to above), it can be seen that on Hoth that indeed Hoth has always had a icey bluish color to it. So that is the correct color it should be in any restoration of the colors in the GOUT.

Of course, in other scenes in the SE, it may be more blue that it's supposed to be. That's why those pictures from the real films in that thread here are so great, you can see the real correct colors in various scenes and what they should be in the GOUT. :)

Yes, the flesh tones are too red. This is always the problem with a general adjustment of colors to bring the overall levels back up where they should be, the flesh tones turn out either too red, or too dark, not natural looking.

This is where the precise adjustment of specific colors within specific color intensity ranges, all adjusted individually, makes the difference. I think Mother may have given some examples in that thread above of some custom color adjustments in a script he was running that allowed more precise control of how the colors in a scene can be adjusted.

The goal being to boost the general colors in the scene to get them back to where they should be, but being able to adjust the skin tones (faces and hands) separately, because they need different color value corrections than the backgrounds do. So it would be one set of color adjustments for the scene in general, and another set of adjustments just for the faces.

This all being controlled in a script by only allowing the proper corrections to be applied on only the original colors in the GOUT that fall within certain value ranges in each picture frame (those original color values in the GOUT will be different for backgrounds and faces, allowing the corrections to be applied selectively).

rmclain73: At the 20 second mark in the video clip, for example, Commander Daine Jir appears too reddish to me, I've seen pictures of him from variety of sources, and a more naturally pale tone I think would be more correct. Perhaps a small adjustment within that color range would help. Should also help with Leia.

Any news on how this is going? :)