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Currently watching "Blackadder the Third".  The first 2 series didn't disappoint me, I know this one won't either. :D

I've also been catching up with season 12 of South Park lately.

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I love all of them but I really don't get the negativity from the cast and crew about the first series.

It's a different kind of humour sometimes but as kids it (along with The Young Ones) was the talk of the playground and it's still very funny stuff.

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I'm beginning to watch Fawlty Towers...finally. I've never properly watched it through before, but I have the DVD set and watched the first episode earlier. Good stuff! I loved the Airplane!-esque ending, too. (perhaps that's where the Airplane! team got it)

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hairy_hen said:

Bunch of pointless wangsty rubbish that means absolutely nothing, and completely wastes the potential that an interesting character like Jack Harkness seemed to promise when Doctor Who first introduced him.  To hell with that garbage!

I agree about it being "wangsty rubbish that means absolutely nothing." But then again I feel completely the same way about Doctor Who.

I actually didn't find Harkness that interesting in Doctor Who, and kind of like what Torchwood has done with him. How much of the show did you watch HH? I watched about three episodes and came to the conclusion I wouldn't be able to take much more of it (I was very tempted to quit after the first episode), but was determined to make it to the end of season one. Now I am glad I did, after hearing so many positive things about Children of the Earth I am kind of excited about it (middle of season two right now).

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Currently watching Star Trek: DS9.

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twister111 said:

Watched some Alien Nation with my family.

Series or movie? The movie's ok, but the series is better. I really enjoyed it. Got the TV movie collection from Best Buy, too.

The series. We have the series and, tv movie collection on DVD.

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Didn't watch the vid?? What's the matter Twister111, you chicken????

(dramatic music plays)

No, just disinterested in the possible addition of lyics to DS9's intro. I'm completely indifferent to the matter.

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I rewatched all of the back to the future films.


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Backing up a few rungs.

I found the whole 'every character is bi-sexual and really up for it' angle terminally 14 year old.

I'm with Charlie Brooker in thinking that most of Torchwood was Scooby-Doo with rude words, essentially a show aimed at children who have just discovered how hilarious profanity and fornication is.

The thing that miffs me as a Big Finish Audio fan is the bits that are interesting about Torchwood were done so much better as The Forge in those stories and RTD never gave credit to the writers or even mentions it as an inspiration but For King And Country, Children Of Earth was a bolt out of the blue, suddenly the show became the thing it was meant to be (even if it was for only one five part story).

Great missed opportunity for a eighties style title sequence featuring a truncated Billy Joel song though.

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Bingowings said:

Backing up a few rungs.

I found the whole 'every character is bi-sexual and really up for it' angle terminally 14 year old.

Hehe, I wasn't going to say anything about that... but yeah, feels like they are trying WAY too hard on that aspect.

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I made it through only a few episodes of the first year before giving up on it, though I peripherally experienced some later ones too.  James Marsters in the second year seemed to give it some additional promise, but since I regard the entire premise of Torchwood as highly flawed (to put it mildly), it wasn't nearly enough to get me to care.

I have seen Children of Earth, mainly because I was in the room on my computer while it was being watched.  It did seem to be better at first, but I found the ending so vile and repulsive that my anger at the previous years was nothing in comparison.  Seriously, that was the only thing they could come up with?  What the hell ever.

This was the moment that my view of Russell T Davies changed from being a flawed but still promising writer, and instead plunged off the deep end into wangsty nonsense; and his severe mishandling of the end of his run on Doctor Who only cemented that perception.  Not that I worship Steven Moffat like a lot of people do, either: he's absolutely brilliant with scifi ideas and timey wimey stuff, but from his often-ridiculous portrayal of women (and various comments he's made in interviews) it's obvious that he's rather sexist, which probably explains why many of his female characters are caricatures with no real depth.  When he doesn't let this get in the way, it becomes less of a problem.  (However, there is no force in this world that will ever make me cease to despise the ludicrously horrible Mary Sue that is River Song.)

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River might be a Mary Sue but seeing as we don't really know what she is yet I prepared to cut her a load of slack (primarily because being a Servalan fan I just can't get enough of outer space ladies walking across alien shingle in fancy shoes with a ray gun about their person).

Rose Tyler was definitely a Mary Sue.

Moffat writes women the same way he writes men so I don't have a problem with his depictions of women.

I know women (more than one) who act, talk and dress exactly like Amy Pond.

As for the ending of COE, I think it was meant to be repulsive, seeing as it's largely a plot pinched from Derrick Bell's The Space Traders, perhaps it wasn't repulsive enough.

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There is no way that Rose Tyler can be called a Mary Sue by any definition of the term.  It gets thrown around a lot as a sort of blanket expression for characters that people don't like, regardless of whether it actually applies.  From a certain perspective you could say that she did get put on a bit of a pedestal after a while, but the only 'criticism' anyone could reasonably make of her character is that she was young and in love with someone she didn't completely understand.  I can't find it in my heart to condemn her for that, and I really don't understand those who do.

River Song is so smugly irritating and convinced of her own importance that at this point I don't care who the hell she is--I just wish she would cease to exist.

I'll easily acknowledge that Amy is the most physically attractive companion they've had on the show, but unfortunately her personality is shallow and abrasively nonexistant.  If there are women like her in real life, that only goes to show that it isn't only fictional characters who lack depth.

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If you got Rose Tyler on a bacon slicer (and I encourage everyone in the Whoniverse to give this a go) and sliced her into wafffer thin slices, you'd find the name Mary Sue written through her in Old High Gallifreyan.

Turn away if you haven't got to the end of season four dear reader.

Rose Tyler (Rose a now not common name in area she resides, Tyler an author signature name...it appears in almost every project RTD has written for) AKA Bad Wolf (a universally recognised meme across the whole of space time which the Doctor doesn't know about).

A gymnast at school, described as attractive enough to be a wife, concubine or prostitute. Almost everyone falls for her charms other than the Doctor (joke).

Born in relative poverty and obscurity is actually the heir to a large fortune but not in the same universe but by pure fluke (or divine self intervention) ends up being in the universe with the millionaire version of dad so she can benefit from it in her future and go from shop assistant to planetary defender and learn how to hop dimensions even though this has been clearly stated to be really dangerous to all universes concerned not to mention impossible.

She has mega lapses in empathy (Mickey definitely but seems more concerned with getting Queen Victoria to say "We are not amused" than all the people dying around her to the point that this actually has to be pointed out by said monarch) this has a knock on effect with the Doctor who has this trait on occasion but usually it's an act, after being around Rose it becomes practically a way of life.

She became a God to save the idealised projection of her absent father (The Ninth Doctor) after failing to save her real father despite almost killing everyone on Earth including the Doctor in the attempt (but she gets the real one back anyway with the added benefits of gaining a fortune and giving her mum her lost love back but with all those troublesome edges knocked off).

He transforms into an idealised projection of the best boyfriend ever (the Tenth Doctor) and she enters a doomed 'platonic or isn't it?' (no it isn't) shipsaga but it's ok because she gets to have her man and not have him via a handy clone (her long suffering boyfriend despite character arcing from zero to hero conveniently jumps out of the way at this point).

She dies a romantic death only she doesn't and the Doctor, Martha and the audience has to suffer his constant moping until she returns so he can die in her arms (only he doesn't).

Need I go on?

As re-jigged from 2005 onwards the Doctor himself is pretty much Doctor Sue too.

 

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The first episode of Mortal Kombat: Legacy. FX it doesn't suck but hey it's free anyway.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s6UiEuCYXA

looks like it's in fullHD too. 

Liking it so far even though nothing's really happened yet, just setting the scene and bringing in some familiar characters...

 

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I'll agree that some of the writing is flawed and could have been handled better, particularly later in the series.  But I find her a sympathetic character, and I vehemently disagree with pretty much everything you said.

Since there's nothing else I can contribute without sounding like a snarky douche and possibly getting myself banned, I'll bow out.

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Could never stand Rose, I nearly wet myself with elation when she got trapped in another universe from which she could never return... but then again, I also felt excited when the exact same thing happened to Mickey several episodes earlier and yet he managed to come back. I haven't seen all of season four yet, but I know she pops up repeatedly during that season.

Martha was so much more enjoyable of a companion, and way more competent. So far I am actually really enjoying Donna, she is annoying, but in an intentional comic relief sort of way that I don't mind so much (Doctor Who really builds up your tolerance for annoying BS). 

 

I've seen one Matt Smith episode (The Beast Below), and I have to say I am completely sold on the redheaded Scottish girl. She actually came off as pretty smart in that episode, but I keep hearing talk of her being an extremely stupid and shallow character, so maybe I won't end up appreciating her as much when I actually get into that season and watch it from beginning to end.

 

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I kind of liked Rose when she was with Doctor Nine (she came across as a flawed but resourceful character) but when Ten came along her character arc came across as canonical slash.

If you liked The Beast Below (and you might want to see it again in context) you may find the show much more fun once you get into the Smith's tenure.

There are a few duds still but the overall share balances out higher in my opinion.

I'm really excited by the show's return for the first time in a long long time and the first story I can remember seeing at the time of broadcast is Carnival Of Monsters. 

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Bingowings said:

I'm really excited by the show's return for the first time in a long long time and the first story I can remember seeing at the time of broadcast is Carnival Of Monsters. 

Good, I hope things get more interesting. I don't think I can handle anymore Daleks or Cybermen. Neither is that interesting to start with, and they just won't go away. Unfortunately, the next episode preview at the end of The Beast Below was for a Dalek episode. Between that and not caring much for Matt Smith as the Doctor, I don't find myself feeling all that interested in season five and beyond... red headed Scottish girl just isn't enough of a draw for me.

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Daleks have been around since 1963, Cybermen since 1966, it pretty obvious that they will always return but I do hope everytime that they do something interesting with them.

The Cybermen haven't had a knock out good television story since Pat Troughton was behind the Time Rotor (though some of the audios are really good, Spare Parts is one of the best ever Doctor Who stories).

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C3PS, the Series 5 Dalek story you speak of - Victory of the Daleks - is without question the worst episode of the season.  I certainly wouldn't recommend skipping it (unlike Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks, which is the worst Dalek story ever written and contributes nothing to the Series 3 arc), but be prepared for it to be pretty bad.  Every other S5 episode is pretty fantastic, though (with the possible exception of The Vampires of Venice).

Also, Matt Smith will grow on you.  He's my favorite Doctor next to Troughton, and Series 5 is my favorite season of the show since it returned in 2005.

And I have to echo Bingowings' sentiments about Rose.  She was good, if not the best, in Series 1, but she pissed me off so much in Series 2, and was absolute ridiculous action-hero-y rubbish in Series 4.  I hope to God we never see her again.

Martha was a great missed opportunity - she could have been one of the best companions ever, but Davies wrote her as the "I love you Doctor, but you're hung up on Rose so I'm going to always be mopey" type.  Similar thing happened with the Doctor that season - all mopey and "I miss Rose, I want Rose back, here Martha, I'll take you to all these places I already went with Rose."

I hated Donna in The Runaway Bride, and that hate carried over for the first half or so of Series 4.  By the end of the series, though, she became my favorite 2005+ companion by a long shot.

Amy's hot, but her dialogue is all quips and she's too smart for her own good when the story requires her to be, and much dumber than she should be when the story requires it as well.

Rory, on the other hand, is fucking awesome.  He should have joined the Doctor in The Eleventh Hour, not Amy.  :-(

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I've been rewatching Firefly.

 

Amazing.

 

I love it sooooo much

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The one good thing about Victory Of The Daleks is it puts a 'final end' to all that "they are gone for good, oh here they are, at least they are gone for good now that I did something really stupid in the last five minutes" rubbish that RTD kept doing.

Sadly it's done by using the first two halves of the same structure and something has changed for the worse about them.

The main returning villains should always be there in the background and pop into the series when the story justifies it.

I wish they'd put an end to this Last Son Of Gallifrey nonsense too because by their absence the Time Lords (including the Master etc) are far more obstructively conspicuous than they ever were when Gallifrey was still officially around.

I hope they write a good enough story to draw a line under all that and then not mention the other Time Lords for a good five years or so.

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greenpenguino said:

I've been rewatching Firefly.

 

Amazing.

QFT


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It's probably my favourite show..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides The Star Wars Holiday Special...

 

...and Star Trek....

 

...and Doctor Who...

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