Making our own 35mm preservation--my crazy proposal — Page 23

The colour is fine. Like Adywan showed, it's very easily recoverable using digital tools. The negatives for Star Wars are much more faded than this and you can see how much colour the SE's got. This kind of colour recovery is pretty much standard for most movies from the 1970s. It's the smallest of the problems. The biggest issue will be cleaning up the dirt and print damage, but luckily this print looks like it is in good condition. I for one would like to see the raw scan released, so that we aren't locked into one interpretation of dirt cleanup and colour correction, but maybe that is asking too much right now.

adywan said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Yep, pretty much.  But instead of DVNR smearing, you'd have very messed-up color instead.

Are you sure of that?

My god, i can't believe the negativity here. It's only at a very early stage and people are saying how crap it's going to look. sure, it's never going to look as good as a studio professionally done transfer but what have we got at the moment? The blurred to hell GOUT. Even if this was done only at DVD res and there were still issues with colouring or other things it's still going to be miles better than what we have at the moment. And this is even going to have the audio track directly captured off the print.

Now those colour corrections were done really quickly, but it does show what can be achieved with this. I'd prefer to have a scratched, grainy transfer with slight colour issues over the GOUT any day

And here's a comparison with the GOUT (Gout on top)

I fully retract my statements.  Fantastic job.

Moth3r said:

Hey Ady, negative1 said to keep those shots private. You know, in the PM he sent to every regular on the forum. ;-)

lol

I'm willing to sell my PMs to anyone who isn't getting them.  Five bucks a piece.  Not even sure why I'm getting them in the first place.

I want those PM with the pictures !!! :-)

See Adywan's post.

Should we even be discussing all this on an 'open forum' as it were? I'd hate to see any hitches to this project because someone on 'the wrong side' happened to see this thread? I thought Lucasfilm were meant to be pretty ruthless when it comes to 35mm prints of the original trilogy? This is the closest we've ever come to a potentially untampered with preservation in very good quality of the Original Trilogy and I'd hate for anything to get in the way of it, and all the hard behind the scenes work -1 has obviously put into this so far.

Probably being Mr Paranoid here, but thought it was worth bringing up lol ;)

Fantomas said:

I want those PM with the pictures !!! :-)

For you, I will lower my price to four bucks.

Thanks !! ;-)

I have been following this forum for a while as a guest and finally decided to join after seeing this. Thanks for giving me hope that the originals might actually be preserved. After seeing the amazing work being done with Laserdiscs and GOUT, no telling what can be done with this.

This could easily be transformed into a very beautiful blu ray. This can demonstrate that fans can do what Lucasfilm has failed to do in well over a decade.

Wow, those ESB shots are amazing (& quite a surprise).  So is this actually a project transfering ALL 3 films?!  You guys are crazy!  And awesome! 

I'm curious, though.  (& I fully understand if no one wants to answer some of the following questions).  Is this the same project that mverta posted about on his site (with the one frame from '77)?  If so, is this going to be made available to insignificant grunts (like me) unlike his last project? 

I guess the mention of mverta kind of surprised me.  I remember when he was a member here, then he kind of disappeared.  Then I joined the replica prop forum and could swear I remembered seeing him over there but he seems to have dissappeared there too.

Anyway, regardless of who's working on it, it looks like an incredible project & I hope you're able to complete it & also that you consider eventually making it a little more widely available.

Whew . . . this is very exciting indeed.  I almost don't know what to say about it except that it's wonderful to see that the prints are in as good condition as they are, and that things are progressing further than I expected.  The preliminary colour correction looks rather good.

What about sound? Will it also be restored? No chance for 6 track dolby?

Being 35mm, the audio being the Dolby Stereo matrixed 2-channel mix seems a given.  Perhaps we could try to get Belbucus back here to do some restoration work on it if need be?  Assuming it gets that far, of course.

Having the actual 6-track mixes is out of the question without access to 70mm prints, but for my part I'd certainly be interested in pairing them with my own 5.1 tracks.  Doing that would largely be a question of getting the synch right, which would depend how many frames were actually missing from the laserdiscs/GOUT and matching the playback speed, and how best to account for things of that nature . . .

I really think it's probably in the best interests of this project if we stop discussing it on a public forum. Some bozo out there might say something to someone who says something to someone else and before you know it too many people know about this preservation, and it won't be long before someone out there tries to shut this down.

All just in my humble opinion of course, but better safe than sorry...