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I don't know if they ever release these kinds of figures but it would be interesting to know how many 'casual' fans buy one of the blu-ray sets, watch them, discover how fucked up they are and return them. After all these sets aren't exactly cheap.

I would have to laugh at LFL so hard if on the first day of release they see massively impressive sales as predicted, and some news outlets get a comment from LFL about how great the set is selling and it just shows how people aren't bothered about the theatrical versions yada yada yada and then a few days later the sets start to get returned on mass because people realise just how full of shit LFL and this set really are!

As a fan of the Original and 1997 SE versions of the OT I have no interest in a blu-ray version of the 2004 release which I actively dislike. If Lucas wants me to splash out on a blu-ray set of Star Wars then he needs to do a Star Wars Theatrical Edition Blu-Ray set containing the '77 '80 & '83 theatrical releases and the 1997 theatrical releases. If I had these I would be a very happy camper! :)

Nobody is going to return the set because it's messed up.  The people out there crazy enough to buy it are also the people who, if they even see anything that seems wrong, will assume that the the movies must always have been that way. Only a tiny percentage of people (yet) even know there is an issue.  I have a friend who works at Skywalker Sound, and when I asked him his opinion about Lucas not releasing the OOT, he honestly wasn't even aware of the topic.

Most retailers only accept returns on opened media items for new copies of the same item. So taking back the discs would only result in getting them again, most of the time.

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Baronlando said:

Apparently Lucas and Christopher Nolan were on a panel last night about important film milestones at the DGA, followed by a screening of Star Wars. Wonder if the issue came up, or if they just showed the CGI version at an event about historical milestones without a trace of irony.

 

http://www.pajiba.com/film_reviews/george-lucas-and-christopher-nolan-remember-star-wars-episode-iv-a-new-hope-review.php

Some info and typical Lucas revisionism:

the Director’s Guild of America held a screening of Lucas’s A New Hope (yes, for all of you wondering, it was the 2004 director’s cut) with a special, hour-long Q&A with Lucas and Christopher Nolan.

Lucas, as he told Nolan, originally envisioned one film: a bad guy is confronted by his son and earns redemption in the third act. Then, when the script reached 250 pages and Lucas was confronted by a modest budget (initially $8 million dollars which grew to $14), he figured he’d spin the three-act story into three separate films, just like the old Flash Gordon serials. 

"Re-watching a film that has defined much of my life — as I am a geek thanks to Batman and Star Wars — through the eyes of a more seasoned moviegoer, I started to notice a few flaws on this masterpiece. Yet, unlike Lucas, I don’t want to shun them or push them away. There’s something endearing about the awkwardness of some of the lines of dialogue (“Ben Kenobi? I don’t think he exists anymore.”) and to Hamill’s over the top, spoiled brat routine in the first act. Sure, it’s hitting the nose on the head when Luke angerly kicks the sand at his feet on Tatooine but then Lucas gives us a perfect moment: Luke, looking at the sunset, the Williams score swelling, and coming to the realization that he is just a small part of the universe. That scene, after nearly thirty-five years since it was shot and, to my knowledge, never digitally altered, still gave me goose bumps and noticing those goose bumps put tears in my eyes. I wanted to tell George Lucas that this is cinephilia, enjoying both the perfect and the imperfect, like one of Shakespeare’s muses (I can never remember which sonnet that is…). Don’t worry about changing it. I respect that, as an artist, you want to strive for a certain vision, for the impossibility of perfection. Yet, it’s easier to love something that feels real and natural, beauty that may even have a wrinkle or two."

It is comments like this one that makes me a little sad, and it sort of proves that Lucas has succeeded. Not everyone is as obsessive as we're on this board, but this is still a huge fan of the film that cannot see any difference between the 2004 transfer and original in this classic shot.

My tears would have been of a different sort.

True, but I think recomping the sun, adding clouds, and removing the mountains is OK (continuity wins in my book). Sometimes I have to remember that we're probably the only people who have gotten down and dirty like this with the films.

doubleofive said:

True, but I think recomping the sun, adding clouds, and removing the mountains is OK (continuity wins in my book). Sometimes I have to remember that we're probably the only people who have gotten down and dirty like this with the films.

Yeah, but this is one of, if not the most iconic scene in the whole film, you would think that just the change to nighttime would make people take notice.

Edit: If the alteration was ok or not, wasn't really my point.

Isn't it a little weird the DGA had this screening, considering the crap they gave Lucas over putting Kershner's name at the end of Empire instead of the beginning? Not to mention Lucas quit the DGA over that little flap...

zombie84 said:

Puggo speaks the truth. No one is going to return anything. How many of us did in 2004? Anyone at all? And we are about as extremist as there is.

In 2006:

Laserman said:

I bought the PAL GOUT of ANH, and after taking a look at it posted it to George along with a letter stating my disappointment at how the PAL territories have been treated with this release. (Didn't mention the whole laserdisc thing, just that a PAL upscale from an NTSC master was an unaccetably cheap way to treat fans when a PAL master existed.)

(Although, he did apparently order the NTSC release later.)

It wasn't Nolan's remark though.

WhatsMyName said:

Better to use a computer then. 

ChainsawAsh said:

However, if you don't have a TV larger than 30", you probably won't notice a difference in picture quality, and if you're using your TV's speakers - or a receiver that doesn't support multichannel PCM or DTS-HD/Dolby TrueHD - you definitely won't notice a difference in sound quality.