ringwraith1973 said:
Pittrek,
I am not using deinterlacing I am doing an inverse telecine which can be achieved with Avinsynth. I played with deinterlacing a couple times and it left a "step effect" on curves, it irritated me to no end so I have been researching how to get rid of that effect. These cartoons were originally shot in 23.97 fps (frames per second) .. NTSC adds dummy frames for American tv at 29.97 fps and PAL adds dummy frames to 25 fps... if you don't at least deinterlace them (which i don't recommend now) though you will see a "comb" effect on monitors if you ever watch them on a computer screen...tvs compensate and re-interlace them. Doing an inverse telecine restores the frames back to the way the animators did them at 23.97 fps...yes I have learned alot over the last month just because of me wanting to get it right.
Oh, okay. You said in your original post you were making them progressive, that's what's called de-interlacing. Inverse telecineing is not the same thing, but no matter. Good of you to make your process clear.
The fact of the matter, these were animated on two's, so they actually only animated 12 fps, doubling that to 24 by shooting every frame twice onto film. IVTC'ing to 24 frames from an NTSC master does make sense.
However, being a PAL native, I must take umbrage with the claim that PAL ads a 25th "dummy frame". It most certainly does not! It just plays the original 24 frames at increased speed (25 fps), resulting in the world-famous "PAL speedup". Anyone mention dummy frames and PAL in the same sentence again will face my wrath! :-)
So, If you're going to be IVTC'ing my PAL captures, that's a different process to the NTSC procedure.
If you've researched this thoroughly, I am sure you're aware of the dangers when noise-reducing animation. Outlines are very easily mistaken for dirt and rubbed out with the rest of the garbage. Even the pros eff that up. (Warner Bros. anyone? http://www.lyris-lite.net/dvnr_lt_castles.html )
Is that also what happened to the laser bolt in your first image? A before/after will tell.