What Plans? said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Chainsaw had some good ideas a while back:
I am loving this idea! Very very cool!
I also like the first pic of the Hoth mockup. I agree that the original looks like a closed set now compared to those.
Even if Ady doesn't do this, it would be cool for someone to render them out and post them as .vob files for other fan edits that might use them. I like having lots of options.
This discussion reminds me of something I spied recently while looking through the old Art of the Empire Strikes Back book:
Taken from plans for the Hoth hangar set.
I think a lot of us on here would agree that changing the Roman numerals from IV, V and VI to I, II, and III would also be acceptable. As far as I'm concerned... I've owned the prequels on DVD for several years and only saw episodes II and III about 2 times each. They're almost completely worthless. Considering a lot of us will prolly seldom watch them, having the original trilogy be "a set of their own" would be an excellent idea... whether by changing the numerals OR replacing "STAR WARS" with the other logos. Either would give Adywayn's trilogy a definitive uniqueness as a whole (and excellent) piece of work.
Just to be sure I dont get lumped into that group, I for one am not for changing something so iconic......I prefer them the way they are
After some thinking, I'm also iffy on changing something so iconic, the farthest I'd go is omitting the numeral, but I really don't think the title should be excluded, nor do I think the iconic gold/yellow text should be changed to any other color.
As everyone probably guesses, being that those mock-ups were made by me ...
I'm all for ditching the episode numbers, and doing all the crawls like the '77 one, with the "STAR WARS" logo replaced with each movie's title.
It makes it much easier for me to ignore the prequels, and I just like the look of the '77 crawl more than the others.
I'm not, however, sold on the different colors thing. But it's true that the Empire script has the crawl in blue, over the backdrop of Hoth - I'd say that's worth a mockup...
Go with the 1980/1983 logos, though, not the 1995 ones.
"Right now the coffees are doing their final work." (Airi, Masked Rider Den-o episode 1)
Problem there is ROTJ becomes very difficult. It's easier to get that kind of an outline from the 1995 logo than the 1983 one.
Don't forget that the actual "Star Wars" logo used in 1977 wasn't the same as the logo used on all the posters and print ads and such. So why would the receding logos for Empire and Jedi be any different?
ChainsawAsh said:
So why would the receding logos for Empire and Jedi be any different?
Because the 1995 logos look terrible, IMHO.
The Golden Idol said:
After some thinking, I'm also iffy on changing something so iconic, the farthest I'd go is omitting the numeral, but I really don't think the title should be excluded, nor do I think the iconic gold/yellow text should be changed to any other color.
I'm not for changing the beginning titles at all. For a series of edits that seems to be about capturing the original spirit so well, changing the opening titles seems to go against that completely.
Still... I do like the idea of removing the episode numbers. Why should there only be three films before A New Hope? Without the numbers the series is free to expand infinitely forward or backward.
I also like the idea of STAR WARS with the titles and not the numeral, like Golden Idol said. Lots of good options.
I guess I just don't like seeing Episode IV, V and VI written in the text. I first saw SW in like 4th grade and those numbers confused the heck out of me until Episode I came out 2 years later. And considering how those turned out... I still don't like those numerals.
ChainsawAsh said:
As everyone probably guesses, being that those mock-ups were made by me ...
I'm all for ditching the episode numbers, and doing all the crawls like the '77 one, with the "STAR WARS" logo replaced with each movie's title.
It makes it much easier for me to ignore the prequels, and I just like the look of the '77 crawl more than the others.
I'm not, however, sold on the different colors thing. But it's true that the Empire script has the crawl in blue, over the backdrop of Hoth - I'd say that's worth a mockup...
I can see your logic that it helps us to ignore the prequels, but isn't this a moot point as, last I heard, Ady's going to be editing the prequels?
Not directed specifically at you ChainsawAsh. There just seems to be a bit of a discussion going on about it for reasons that wouldn't apply to the Revisited saga as it includes the prequels.
lol. Why doesn't anyone ever read the videos description when i post them?
Oh it was a lampoon...a simple lampoon.
Was the "as if" there when you posted it? I swear it wasn't!
It's not April Fool's Day already, is it? ;)
musta missed that "as if" as well.....but I DID think to myself that it wasa wee bit early for one of Ady's patented april fools gags
brash_stryker said:
Oh it was a lampoon...a simple lampoon.
Was the "as if" there when you posted it? I swear it wasn't!
yeh, I haven't changed anything in the description.
It was actually done because i was having an argument with someone years ago about how the music that was composed originally to fit with each paragraph of the crawl would no longer work with the crawls for any other of the movies because the paragraphs were different length. I said they could be re-timed and set out to prove my point. This was around the time i started on ESB:R. Although i do miss the fact that the original cues were screwed up ever since they added the titles, it isn't something i would ever really consider doing
Whoops, missed the announcement in the ANH:R thread. Move along.
O.T. or No T., baby!™
*glazed expression*
Huh?
EyeShotFirst said:
Chainsaw had some good ideas a while back:
Then 005 had colour ideas
I'm all for this. I like the scroll being yellow, blue or red. When I think of ROTJ, I think of green more than red though, but red works too. Adywan I beg you, please get rid of the movie title numbers. I don't want the OT associated with those pieces of crap. I wanted this done, but I never thought it had a chance of happening since Adywan said he wasn't going back to ANH.
I like the idea of the title logos appearing instead of text too.
Ghostbusters said:
EyeShotFirst said:
Chainsaw had some good ideas a while back:
While I can definitely more than live with what we have currently, I can see at the very least eliminating the "Episode IV" above the movie subtitle (STAR WARS.... A NEW HOPE, followed by scroll).
Even so, this would be a very cool alternative. Eliminating the Episode number and film subtitle, and replacing the STAR WARS with the title of the movie - though I would at the least keep the yellow to retain consistency with the original STAR WARS logo.
Even so, at the very least, I would consider eliminating the "Episode" line above the "The Empire Strikes Back" film subtitle above the scroll, as well as the on for JEDI.
“You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”
– Homer Simpson
But Adywan wasn't completely serious, so its an idea for someone else to use.
Star Wars Revisited Wordpress
Star Wars Visual Comparisons WordPress
That's what I was saying.
If I had a nickel for every time a moot point was dragged out over pages and pages.....I have a feeling I'd be about to earn another nickel
If only those nickels could be donated to the Revisted project, Ady would be done in a month!
