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And that 'emotionless shell' is the dyson sphere where TNG found Scotty which is actually one of Orko's eye-balls.  Strange yet tRUE.

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Wow.  It must have really hurt when the Jenolen crashed into Orko's eye!

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TheBoost said:

I would dig if the Clone Wars show had a flashback episode to Obi and Qui in pre-TPM time. Just a cool adventure to see these two back in action.

Actually Dave Filoni wasked for something like that, but GL denied because of the timeline. But it would be interesting to have something like that. Maybe another series pre-TPM.

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Dave's pretty good about keeping with these things. That's why Grevious and Anakin can never meet in the series because they first met in ROTS. It seems to me that the only reason Qui-Gon is able to communicate with Obi-Wan is that area they're in acts as a conduit that allows him to appear but only in that location. So later on when Yoda reveals he's been talking to Qui-Gon, Obi-wan is still justifiably taken aback because Qui-Gon was able to materialize on his own.

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Finally  something to look forward too. Qui-gon is my  3rd best character of all 6 films  right behind Luke and vader.

 

 About this causing yet another plot hole. I am sure it will. Lucas and clearly shown he  does not care if something causes a plot hole. One more in his mind won't hurt anything.

As much as I hate the PT films  I suggest anyone who has yet to watch the clone wars show to do so. Especially the last two seasons. They are everything the PT films should have been in regards to the anakin skywalker character. He is likable and he  behaves like a respectable jedi knight.

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Qui Gon cannot manifest himself as an image and only as a voice, he never was able to merge his whole self with the force.  His body did not disappear and was burned.

 

This is seriously bullshit, and not in continuity with revenge of the sith, the saga or the novelization.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Qui Gon cannot manifest himself as an image and only as a voice, he never was able to merge his whole self with the force.  His body did not disappear and was burned.

 

This is seriously bullshit, and not in continuity with revenge of the sith, the saga or the novelization.

But Anikin didn't disappear and he still came back as a ghost.

I really couldn't care any less about any of this though.

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ray_afraid said:

skyjedi2005 said:

Qui Gon cannot manifest himself as an image and only as a voice, he never was able to merge his whole self with the force.  His body did not disappear and was burned.

 

This is seriously bullshit, and not in continuity with revenge of the sith, the saga or the novelization.

But Anikin didn't disappear and he still came back as a ghost.

I really couldn't care any less about any of this though.

I can't  help but agree.  Lucas has messed it all up so bad already  nothing  that happens now can help or hurt it anymore than it already is. It is damaged beyond repair.

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LeeThorogood said:

The plot holes thicken, it now turns out Darth Maul isn't dead either. Dum Dum Daaaahhhhhhh!

Either? Who else is alive?

Anyway, that shot is ambiguous, because he could very well still be dead.

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Yes, They only really strongly hinted at certain things.

At this point I don't care much whether the series contradicts the films now that the story is actually going somewhere.

With Maul and Qui Gon it'll be just like old times, only different.

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The Clone Wars is a great series. Not only is it some good Star Wars action, but it really puts some of the crap that was in the prequels into perspective, and makes it make sense. And if you like the EU, there are a ton of references and characters and whatnot from it. Dave really knows what he's doing, I think.

There are some stumbling blocks, like the Jar Jar episodes... but they're not awful and some of the other episodes certainly make up for them. The jumping around is a little weird, too... the non-chronology doesn't jive well with me, but apparently from now on they'll be in order.

It's definitely worth watching the first season at least.

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Aside from those episode where Jar Jar wasn't voiced by Best, they were actually not bad at all.

In fact, Supply Lines is one of my favourite episodes this season, and Jar Jar was in it.

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Alexrd said:

Aside from those episode where Jar Jar wasn't voiced by Best, they were actually not bad at all.

In fact, Supply Lines is one of my favourite episodes this season, and Jar Jar was in it.

I happen to agree. The episode actually made Jar Jar seem... well... like an okay character.

There. I've said it.

 

If that's not reason to watch this show, then I dunno what is.

Keep Circulating the Tapes.

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it looks  like darth maul is back  as well as qui-gon

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Yoda's lines to Obi-Wan at the end of ROTS was the biggest "Oh, wait!  I forgot to ever explain like the FIRST mystery that was ever in Star Wars and now the movies are over!  Um, ok, here's a speech!"

I had NO idea what the hell he was talking about.  I had to have it EXPLAINED to me.  (And I followed all three Pirates of the Caribbean movies without missing a beat.  Did you catch that Will is killed with the sword that he made at the beginning of P1?)

So if Clone Wars screws that up, I'm all for it!

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DuracellEnergizer said:

LeeThorogood said:

The plot holes thicken, it now turns out Darth Maul isn't dead either. Dum Dum Daaaahhhhhhh!

It's been done - twice!

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Resurrection

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Old_Wounds

 

 

The Maul as a cyborg is not canon though.  Since Lucas is involved in the clone wars and if Maul returns then it is sadly canon.  Hence Lucas destroys his own continuity and canon.  It is okay if its EU because that is ancillary but the main story is shot to hell by these cartoons.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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There is no main story, the only main story is in your mind, you must unlearn what you have learned.

The way I look at The Clone Wars series is the same way I look at the Marvel Comics between and after the films.

They are fun, on the whole and feel more like Star Wars than many of the other things that carry the brand name (which lets face that's what those two words have been since a long time ago).

They certainly have more of a Star Wars feel than the PT films.

They don't destroy anything that really exists (the PT films DID kill the promise of good Episodes 1 to 3 which was dangled before us as soon as they changed the crawl for the first film).

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G-Canon are only the movies. Not the TV series. And I agree with Bingowings, each person decides what's their canon.

And may I ask how is George destroying his own continuity?

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Episode is panning out like a Star Trek episode.

...and just like Voyager and 7of9, they're framing shots with close ups of body parts.  Stay Classie Clone Wars.

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Tallguy said:

Yoda's lines to Obi-Wan at the end of ROTS was the biggest "Oh, wait!  I forgot to ever explain like the FIRST mystery that was ever in Star Wars and now the movies are over!  Um, ok, here's a speech!"

I had NO idea what the hell he was talking about.  I had to have it EXPLAINED to me.  (And I followed all three Pirates of the Caribbean movies without missing a beat.  Did you catch that Will is killed with the sword that he made at the beginning of P1?)

So if Clone Wars screws that up, I'm all for it!

No :DDD

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Alexrd said:

G-Canon are only the movies. Not the TV series. And I agree with Bingowings, each person decides what's their canon.

And may I ask how is George destroying his own continuity?

Hate being a smartass and all, but deciding what "your canon" is is stupid - there is no canon, only different pieces of fiction (different instances of a franchise as well as different scenes in one movie) that are supposed or not supposed to add up, and can be consistent or inconsistent. Anything above that is giving the nature of fictional reality too much credit.

Heh.

 

As for Lucas destroying his own continuity, meh - they already did that with all those universe-shrinking retcons in the OT.

C-3P0 at Owen's farm, and Padmé dying at childbirth, are two parts of "continuity destruction" in the PT in relation to the OT.

Not watching the series, btw :D

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Every Star Wars film after the original has destroyed a bit of cannon - it just depends how elitist you are and which retcons you WANT to refute.

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