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If he doesn't have cancer and is unwilling to scan documentation stating such, it should be bannable offense for lying, fraud and asking for donations.

If he in fact does submit correct proof of cancer to Jay and not give falsified claims, then everything okay. That means no very long story and very lot of scanned documents.

 

Is very untrustworthy for somebody who could be lying for this. For suggesting this thread should be locked until there is irrefutable proof from Dayv he does in fact have cancer.

Perhapsing more persons are far more trusting for people if they lie, or not, to get sympathy when otherwise people should have been more cautious in first place and investigated.

Sorry for long posting and English being second language.

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Leguman said: Whatever I think for myself I'm taking a note of your post.

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Leguman said:  Lie or truth is secondary question: the way this affair has been exposed was a mistake.  I think what you perceive as condescendance is rather passion.

I have to disagree.  I can perceive when you are passionate about something, but it's your way of presenting your judgment (in bold above) as a fact, and acting as if people are foolish because they do not make the some judgment or have the same priorities, that comes across as condescension.  This, in my opinion, is what needs to change for you to get along better with people.  Just a thought!  We had both better stay on topic now though.  :-)

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Alright I take a bit of a break from the forums and, this stuff happens. I have to say I had my suspicions from day one. Due to a similar thing happening while I was interacting with controltv.com. The term RAK was created due to it. See this guy named Randall created a false wife named Alina, and her sister Kassie. Hence "RAK" or, "RAKing" when someone does something similar. The Randall guy had been a member of the dreamupdates community for years apparently. Long story short some people who knew Randall in real life came on-line to expose his lies. Opening the floodgates for looking and, revealing past misinformation. I really hope this isn't another RAK type incident. As much as it would be great if Dayv doesn't have cancer. Lieing about such a thing to the point of accepting donations and, my assistance trying to get the media involved would just piss me off.

Even though I had my suspicions I tried to help. I just didn't want to feel bad about letting someone possibly die without trying to help.


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HarryTasker2525 said:

If he doesn't have cancer and is unwilling to scan documentation stating such, it should be bannable offense for lying, fraud and asking for donations.

I could NOT agree with you more, it is not very hard to contact your Doctor and get copies, well maybe it is for him, but copies of YOUR medical records for you are very much available upon request, and they would be probably free.

I am sure it is not to hard to read between the lies and half truths here.

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Dayv, if you want to be believed, I strongly suggest you do as requested and provide concrete evidence.   now. 

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I've done a little spying on the Mangler Bros from.   My account was unbanned, but I my IP was still blocked.   I had to use a proxy to get it.   Dayv is free to ban me from there again if he wishes.   I did not find any threads over there created specifically to talk about Dayv cancer.   I saw no requests for donations.    I did however find what could be a hint of it in the a threat called "the debate thread".   Dayv asked this:

IF YOU WERE REALLY SICK/DYING WOULD YOU TELL YOUR FAMILY OR KEEP IT TO YOURSELF?

they are a few other references to Dayv possibly being sick.    But it just doesn't look like what I'd expect a forum, run by someone desperate dying of lung cancer that needed money to save his life, to look like

 

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I come on here for my monthly check on the site and I see this! What a surprise...

Here's what I think/know. Dayv has had it pretty tough the past couple years. I speak with him at least every other week on the phone to see how he's doing. He's had to move multiple times and even stayed at my home for a month or so.

During that stay in 2008, he told me he had cancer and showed me his paperwork from the Cancer Center in Tulsa (He moved there after leaving his home but prior to staying at my place). I don't want to give any details about the paperwork due to keeping his privacy, but it did recommend he seek further tests and it was extremely concerning to him.

I don't have any proof of his cancer, and I'm not going to ask for proof. I do know it is relatively simple to obtain a copy of any paperwork given from any doctor's office or hospital. 

What I don't completely understand is how he didn't have insurance all this time. I understand many people don't, but if a person does not have a job, especially being homeless, one would think they would qualify for medicaid and able to take advantage of other programs available. I suggested these and more to Dayv but it seems he did not do any follow up.

So the question remains... Do I believe Dayv has cancer? I honesty don't know. I believe he has embellished the truth on more than one occassion in person, on the phone, and online. I really don't want to believe anyone would lie about having such a debilitating disease, especially someone I have met in person and hang out with on rare occassions.

Everyone has bouts of bad luck, but I find it hard to believe this much bad luck can befall on one person over the course of a number of years. I wish Dayv nothing but the best and hope things get better.

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ricardo said:

During that stay in 2008, he told me he had cancer and showed me his paperwork from the Cancer Center in Tulsa (He moved there after leaving his home but prior to staying at my place).

According to Dayv, the cancer he had back in 2008 isn't the same cancer he has now.   He also said the cancer back in 2008 had been cured. 

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

Warbler said:

another thing: back in 2008, Dayv told me in an email that he had cancer and said he had told his ex about it(the one that is mother of his children).   You make recall about a week ago, Dayv posted about not being able to see his kids for Christmas.   I talked to him in pms about this and said that I couldn't believe his ex wouldn't allow him to see his children knowing that it might be his last Christmas.   He then told me that the ex didn't know about the cancer.   Either he lied to me in 2008 or he lied to me a week ago.

THAT WASN'T THE LUNG CANCER IN 2008.  THAT WAS THE SARCOMA OF THE SMALL INTESTINE.  THAT WAS CURED.

 

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Warbler said:

ricardo said:

During that stay in 2008, he told me he had cancer and showed me his paperwork from the Cancer Center in Tulsa (He moved there after leaving his home but prior to staying at my place).

According to Dayv, the cancer he had back in 2008 isn't the same cancer he has now.   He also said the cancer back in 2008 had been cured. 

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Warbler said:

another thing: back in 2008, Dayv told me in an email that he had cancer and said he had told his ex about it(the one that is mother of his children).   You make recall about a week ago, Dayv posted about not being able to see his kids for Christmas.   I talked to him in pms about this and said that I couldn't believe his ex wouldn't allow him to see his children knowing that it might be his last Christmas.   He then told me that the ex didn't know about the cancer.   Either he lied to me in 2008 or he lied to me a week ago.

THAT WASN'T THE LUNG CANCER IN 2008.  THAT WAS THE SARCOMA OF THE SMALL INTESTINE.  THAT WAS CURED.

 

Lot of people are in bad financial situation this time of year. Yes I do donate thousands to charities as I always do near the holidays.

Where is concrete evidence Dayv is having cancer? I do not see this anywhere yet.

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Nerfherder said:

PaulisDead2221 said:

I did not appreciate somebody's comment about "karma" that seemed to be insinuating that the proper karmic "balance" to this situation is for you to actually get cancer

That wasn't my attention at all - I meant if you lie about something, it'll catch up with you in the end - that's what I meant by the Karma comment. And how dare you insinuate that I would wish cancer on anyone, especially after I posted that I know people that have died from it (people I loved). I'm awaiting an MRI result myself...

Then, indeed, I take it back.  I hope you read this before you leave the thread.

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We are still waiting for your concrete proof, Dayv.

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Dayv knows. there's no need to remind him every other day. Let the man alone. If he wants to, he'll provide proof. If he doesn't, then he doesn't.

 

Time to move on.

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ricardo said:

Dayv knows. there's no need to remind him every other day. Let the man alone. If he wants to, he'll provide proof. If he doesn't, then he doesn't.

 

Time to move on.

And we ALL here know, he will NOT provide said proof, but the guy almost got 1 hell of a huge cash Christmas gift from some generous people here, you guys tickled him to death while he was watching his paypal account grow for no reason.

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ricardo said:

Dayv knows. there's no need to remind him every other day. Let the man alone. If he wants to, he'll provide proof. If he doesn't, then he doesn't.

 

Time to move on.

sorry, but I am not going to move on until the truth comes out, and I am not going to let a man alone that possibly committed fraud against the forum members here.    I will remind Dayv as much as I like.

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PSYCHO_DAYV said:

I'VE ALREADY STATED THAT JAY WILL GET THE PROOF.  

well what are you waiting for?!?!  You've been accused of fraud!!!!   SEND JAY THE DAMNED PROOF AND CLEAR YOUR NAME!    I would think if you are innocent are really dying of lung cancer, you'd want to clear your name  and get the donations rolling again a.s.a.p.     All it would take is a simply trip to your doctors office and request a copy of your medical records.  You could have had done so days ago.  I'm going to give you till the end of the year to give Jay solid evidence.    If I don't see a post from Jay clearing your name before 2011,  I will assume you are guilty of fraud and will act accordingly.

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Warbler said:

PSYCHO_DAYV said:

I'VE ALREADY STATED THAT JAY WILL GET THE PROOF.  

well what are you waiting for?!?!  You've been accused of fraud!!!!   SEND JAY THE DAMNED PROOF AND CLEAR YOUR NAME!    I would think if you are innocent are really dying of lung cancer, you'd want to clear your name  and get the donations rolling again a.s.a.p.     All it would take is a simply trip to your doctors office and request a copy of your medical records.  You have had done so days ago.  I'm going to give you till the end of the year to give Jay solid evidence.    If I don't see a post from Jay clearing your name before 2011,  I will assume you are guilty of fraud and will act accordingly.

That is very good deadline.

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First off, what are the authorities going to do? No offense actually occurred as nobody was ripped off of any money as it was all returned so get over it as the ever so brilliant minded Ricardo stated. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the whole story was just that...a story. I honestly believe this feller can't help lying and telling stories. Everybody knows one of those people and Dayv is just one of them. The dude can't help it as it is apparent there is something not right in his mind to keep telling stories for whatever reason.

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First off, not everyone has had their money returned.  Second off, this is your first post here, so you don't get to tell us to get over a long-time member lying and defrauding us (if that is the case, jury is still out of course).  And third off, anyone with half a brain can tell it's bad form to be insulting to other members in your first post.

 

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Ricschick said:

First off, what are the authorities going to do? No offense actually occurred as nobody was ripped off of any money as it was all returned so get over it as the ever so brilliant minded Ricardo stated. Anyone with half a brain can tell that the whole story was just that...a story. I honestly believe this feller can't help lying and telling stories. Everybody knows one of those people and Dayv is just one of them. The dude can't help it as it is apparent there is something not right in his mind to keep telling stories for whatever reason.

Sorry guys, I'll try not let my woman near the computer again.

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I'm locking this thread now while Jay and Davy sort out the issue privately.

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Dayv e-mailed me scans of paperwork that document his diagnosis and the personnel treating him. The letterhead contains the oncologist's office name and address. I looked up the oncologist, his medical office, and the other treating physicians online; all are real. However, I can't confirm that Dayv is a patient with the doctor's office because they aren't allowed to give out that information.

Dayv has asked me to keep the documents private. Short of hiring a forensic expert who specializes in digital imaging, there's nothing else I can do to verify his claims.

Whether this information satisfies you or not is a personal decision, and whether you choose to make a donation or not is up to you. At this point, you either believe him or you don't.

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Thank you Jay. 

I choose to believe him - similar to what I said before, if he has gone to all of this trouble, including forging medical records, in order to make some money, he needs my small contribution more than I do.

Either that or I'm just an idiot.  I don't rule that possibility out.

Best of health, DAYV.