GOUT image stabilization - Released — Page 39

g-force said:

What does everyone think?

-G

I think the subs should be placed in the picture where it originally was and in its original colour. Then the work is done, everything is faithful to the original and one can make his own corrections if he wants something different. Perhaps you can build in a variable in the script to turn it on and off, or place it in the black bars, if you want to make everybody happy. For me it's fine whatever you choose, as it is easy to change in the script.

And I'd prefer to wait for the PAL script, since that would be better quality. Am I right that you plan to write a "dual" script for ROTJ with a NTSC/PAL switch in the script?

vbangle said:

I disagree. There will be people that will encode using your script. In fact there are probably dozens of people waiting for your script to do just that...

The minority (like me and a few others) are waiting for the script, but the silent majority will just download the (new) available encode, obviously Dark Jedi's and they won't care to get something else which is in essence the same (g-force's PAL version or original script). Probably that's what g-force meant...

Moth3r said:

I also thought the subs looked unnaturally "clean". My idea, as I explained a while ago in another thread, was to overlay a layer of grain over the text.

Agreed, but that's really just the cherry on the cake.

I'm not planning on a NTSC input to NTSC output release of the script. I just don't have the time right now, and the PAL to NTSC is really the way to go.

-G

zee944 said:

I think the subs should be placed in the picture where it originally was and in its original colour. Then the work is done, everything is faithful to the original and one can make his own corrections if he wants something different.

Ditto from Sluggo.  It just feels more like a movie with them in picture.

Thanks, msycamore!

I actually like them quite a bit. It really comes down to a preference thing, and by the way, I have no idea how to add grain to just the subs either.

-G

You'd probably have to put the subs onto a, say, full green background, create a mask selecting the green parts with ColorKeyMask(), invert the selection, ruin the subs (grain, blurring, whatever) and Overlay() the subs onto the already fixed video.

Yeah, I was speaking in terms of having subs that were triggered instead of "burned in" or "hardcoded", and not with letterboxed video.

I fully agree with them being in picture, as they were in the theater.

Moth3r said:

Starting with the output from the g-force script, run it through a very strong denoiser to completely scrub all grain - but generate a "difference" clip from the source and cleaned video. Apply the subtitles, then overlay the difference clip. This is essentially adding the grain that was removed back in, only this time it will be on top of the subs.

Smart. It makes the subs more authentic than with the method I've suggested.

Today I compared the NTSC Faces LD of ROTJ with the PAL DVD of the GOUT and it seems to be the same master. The dirt and aliasing artefakts where the same. So I don´t think there is much to gain from using the PAL release. Perhaps they just used a different filter than the NTSC release.

d020 said:

Today I compared the NTSC Faces LD of ROTJ with the PAL DVD of the GOUT and it seems to be the same master. The dirt and aliasing artefakts where the same. So I don´t think there is much to gain from using the PAL release. Perhaps they just used a different filter than the NTSC release.

Nonetheless, the PAL GOUT looks a bit better than the NTSC.  There is no reason to not use it.

msycamore said:

I just wanted to bump this thread to again say thank you so much g-force for the hard work you have poured into these scripts, one of the unsung heroes of these boards, you made the GOUT a lot easier on the eyes! :)

Ditto what my friend msycamore said, I totally agree.

Hi all, I'm trying to run the ROTJ script v14.08, and I'm getting some artifacts on one of the small samples I'm using for testing purposes.

I've tracked down the problem to the "restore stars" portion of the script, but I can't find a way to fix it without removing those lines. Any clues?

Thanks

Damn, it is on my version as well, now I wonder is it just on this scene only or does it go throughout the entire film randomly, now that is the big question, I have gotten rid of it without removing the line you mentioned, here are my screens, the aspect ratio on your screens looks off.

So now I need to figure this out, do I need to render the whole thing, or just the scene, and I thought I had ALL video done LOL.

@ lkjacc, I sure am GLAD you caught that, I have been so busy doing all this audio stuff I just assumed all video was perfect, g-force usually does not miss things like this, but it is pretty easy to miss when in motion, stepping through the video you can see it crystal clear, I just hope g-force makes an appearance to give us a comment on this, maybe he will know if it is only this scene specific, or maybe a possible whole film issue, we will see.

@dark_jedi

And I'm glad I could help, but please tell me how you got rid of it.

That shot is the only one with artifacts out of a 3 minutes sample, so it might be related to fast moving backgrounds.

The AR is different because I'm trying to make a x264/flac/mkv version, so it's going to be straight 2.35:1 instead of 16:9 anamorphic. I asked in the GOUT V3 thread and was told you're probably not going to make one yourself.

I would make one if I knew how, so if you have a detailed how to for a Windows machine I could do it along with all the rest I am doing, I would like to make versions for everyone.