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JetrellFo's Jedi Archive Special Edition: Japan LD Preservation Project ***Still Learning*** — Page 2

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Video: YUY2 format, compressed with a lossless codec such as Lagarith or Huffyuv.

Audio: 2-channel 16-bit PCM - it will be 44.1kHz if you are grabbing the digital stream directly from the laserdisc; if you are recording the analogue audio source, then sample at 48kHz so no conversion is required for DVD.

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At the behest of my own inexperience and the interest of a few members here I have started and completed my first test disc.

I captured "just" the 3 SE trailers and the mini-doc from my U.S. 1997 LD set with the intention of honing my understanding of the process and creating a singular disc with just these features on it.

Virtualdub and TMPGEnc are the programs I'm using to do this with.  I finished the first disc with a basic menu and found that the Cinema2 setting on my LD machine did indeed keep the blacks but the picture is a little dark so I am trying some different settings with TMPGEnc 3XPress to get a better picture for the second test disc.

This foray has shown me that I can get a nice straight capture using the ATI capture card with no extra processing through Virtualdub.  Doing a whole movie will mean a bit more effort but in the end I at least have the ability to do so.

It's a start...........

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Tests have shown me I may need to rethink my strategy a bit.  When I use the Cinema2 video option on my LD (it supposed to enhance the blacks) I get a darker picture but due to my inexperience I cannot find a way during processing to even this out and get a better picture without making the end result look too washed out or processed.

I'm going to have to educate myself more on all of this I fear before I can create anything that I would feel good about submitting for all of you as the standards here are all ready rather high with the awesome transfers already out there.

Keep your fingers crossed for me.

:)

 

 

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Since this project is on a temporary hold I decided to upload my 1997 Special Edition 5 Star Collection discs to Demonoid.  

If you are after this set, you will find it there.  ANH is up right now.

Cheers!!!!

 

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Brill!

Any chance Jetrell Fo you can upload some screenshots of this 1997SE 5 Star collection to show us how the transfer looks?

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it looks bad, I have both the DVD5 and DVD9 versions and they look bad.

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rockin said:

Brill!

Any chance Jetrell Fo you can upload some screenshots of this 1997SE 5 Star collection to show us how the transfer looks?

I gotta agree with dj....the video is not outstanding but if you don't own them on laserdisc or at least want the option to have them in your collection then this would be the way to go as they are a straight transfer from the U.S. LD set with no tweaking.

The ones I have are the Dual Layered ones.     

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Jetrell Fo said:

Since this project is on a temporary hold I decided to upload my 1997 Special Edition 5 Star Collection discs to Demonoid.  

If you are after this set, you will find it there.  ANH is up right now.

Cheers!!!!

 

Just wanted to say I'm glad to see this share-effort of mine for this set seems to have been well accepted and I appreciate that people were interested in getting it.

Empire will be next......

 

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dark_jedi said:

it looks bad, I have both the DVD5 and DVD9 versions and they look bad.

 I have the dvd9 version also and sometimes i swear im watching a VHS copy.

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Murry Sparkles said:

dark_jedi said:

it looks bad, I have both the DVD5 and DVD9 versions and they look bad.

 I have the dvd9 version also and sometimes i swear im watching a VHS copy.

If you're a completist, it's nice to have.  I found that adjusting my T.V. settings can get me a pretty good quality picture. 

Looks to me like they compromised video quality for extra audio features.

 

 

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Correct me if i'm wrong but i think these were made by capturing the laserdisc to super vhs and then making DVD's out of them.

This was done to get rid the side swap issue if i remember reading about it correctly.

Obviously with software and a computer one can do a far better job.


Also the Laserdiscs are not the best picture quality source in the first place, that is why people have used DVB over the air pal recordings, and a digibetacam tape for reconstructing these versions.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

Also the Laserdiscs are not the best picture quality source in the first place, that is why people have used DVB over the air pal recordings, and a digibetacam tape for reconstructing these versions.

I haven't seen any version that isn't tweaked in some way to include the color correction.  All I personally would like to see is the 1997 SE with just color correction, nothing more.  This way it is archived for what it is as a stand alone set.

The 5 Star Collection was what got me thinking about a straight transfer that was cleaner with the 5.1 Audio and in the end, maybe nicer all around.

If there was a DVD9 version of JUST the DVB Pal recordings with ONLY color correction I'd be perfectly happy.

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As I was perusing the innerweb I started to see some references regarding video proc amps as a way to get a nicer picture to start out with.  My Pioneer DVL-90 Elite is by no means a top of the line player.  It's composite connection gives a cleaner picture than the S-Video but I do notice what I believe is gamma noise when I use my Panasonic DMR-EA18 Recorder for transfer.

Is it the machine itself that is causing the "static-like" interference that might benefit from such a device, I'm not sure.  I'd like to understand how to figure it out these kind of things.

Would something like the Elite BVP4 be worth acquiring to do an LD transfer with?  I don't really know much about proc amps but I would think a basic transfer would benefit from such a device.

Maybe, what I need, is to pair up with someone who is interested and willing to share in this project who has more technical skill than I do.  The basic transfer is easy....it's all the script (AVIsynth, Virtualdub) stuff that gets me spooked and makes me hesitant.