The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 195

Have JarJar the normal green colour of his people until he goes to Tatooine where it does murder to his skin

fishmanlee said:

alright, i'll look into calibrating my display, i dont want to do crappy color correction/adjustment. until i calibrate my display there shouldnt be any color corrections/adjustments posted here

http://youtu.be/fzYaQ4OYxWU

You know what's sad? For all the brown, I still think it looks better.

it seems Kerr (see The Lord of the Rings: Red Book I,II,III,IV,V, and VI) is throwing his hat into the Prequel Fan-Editing ring: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an0aI8yGjh8

Bingowings said:

I've just mentioned this elsewhere but it deserves a mention here.

Do we actually need to see Yoda in the PT at all?

Remember in the OUT how we heard about Jabba but never saw him until ROTJ.

What if throughout the PT there are mentions of this powerful Jedi Master but the name is never attached to anyone we actually see.

He could be any of the others or he could be someone else so when Luke finally meets the great Yoda it really hammers home the physical incongruity.

Most of what Yoda does in the PT is out of character with what he does in the OT and the rest of it doesn't really add up to much.

Master idea. Definitely something I would do if I did prequel edits.

fishmanlee said:

I cant find the Color Corrected Prequels thread so i'll post this here

here is a first run of Jango Fett vs obi-wan colour corrected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSxwyhGK-3U

That's pretty well done for your first run at colour correction! Most people just lower the saturation and adjust the contrast - I can tell you've put work into it.

adywan said:

fishmanlee said:

I cant find the Color Corrected Prequels thread so i'll post this here

here is a first run of Jango Fett vs obi-wan colour corrected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSxwyhGK-3U

Before you attempt any form of colour correction make sure that you have your monitor properly calibrated. That video is way too orange/ brown so i can guess that your monitor is probably set to "cool".

ady is right. When I did graphic design, a lot of the colour on my earlier work looked great to me, but everyone kept telling me it looked bad and I missed some dark areas and bright areas, and then when I got a better screen I was able to properly adjust colour tones and the blackest blacks and the whitest whites. I've personally invested in a Toshiba 23" HDTV as my computer display and it works like a beauty! What kind of display are you using?

fishmanlee said:

alright, i'll look into calibrating my display, i dont want to do crappy color correction/adjustment. until i calibrate my display there shouldnt be any color corrections/adjustments posted here

Even once you think you have the video calibrated, check it on another screen first and if it looks good to you, then upload it. The worst that will happen is that people will point out some errors - and frankly, how else do you plan on improving?

vbangle said:

fishmanlee said:

I cant find the Color Corrected Prequels thread so i'll post this here

here is a first run of Jango Fett vs obi-wan colour corrected

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSxwyhGK-3U

Nothing you do ever looks good. Sorry.

That was completely awful.

Aaaaaaaaw..... how cute! You actually think you know what you are talking about. :)

Sluggo said:

Bingowings said:

I've just mentioned this elsewhere but it deserves a mention here.

Do we actually need to see Yoda in the PT at all?

Remember in the OUT how we heard about Jabba but never saw him until ROTJ.

What if throughout the PT there are mentions of this powerful Jedi Master but the name is never attached to anyone we actually see.

He could be any of the others or he could be someone else so when Luke finally meets the great Yoda it really hammers home the physical incongruity.

Most of what Yoda does in the PT is out of character with what he does in the OT and the rest of it doesn't really add up to much.

I really like that idea.  

Or, if you had to, you could leave him in as a background character for one scene, but leave him un-named.  That way, if someone was watching the movies according to this mythical, hypothetical, crazy-butt scenario where somehow they didn't know a thing about Star Wars and were tested like some lab rat and made to only watch fan-edit versions, they then could see Yoda in ESB and say, "Hey, there's something familiar about that puppet guy.  I don't know, maybe I'm crazy."

That is also a good way to go about it. I think the problem with the PT is the fact that George puts in familiar characters to try to sell it to the old school fans as "Hey, it's Yoda, now it is just like the OT" "Hey, it's Chewbacca, just like the OT!"

I think if anything, the only characters that absolutely needed to be shown were Obi Wan, Anikan, Palpy, and Pamedalan.

Yoda is only there to feed the annoying people who quote Yoda all the time.

That's bullshit. It's the same series... it makes sense for characters to reappear - ESPECIALLY YODA who is regarded as the greatest warrior!

First off, Yoda was essential - especially the way they talked about him in the OT, the same goes for Bail Organa. Places like the Jedi Temple and the Senate were either mentioned or alluded to, or were good ideas. Some aspects of the PT were really fantastic (the senate, the jedi council and the temple, naboo (not the gungans, but the main idea behind the planet and the two worlds in one, and the architecture... it was fantastic), Mustafar and Coruscant (which were meant to be the setting of ROTJ (Coruscant's core led way to the development of Mustafar), Felucia (so good that even James Cameron stole it!) and even Kashyyk - hell even the "chosen one" subplot wasn't bad, they just milked it too much and it should've been a kind of subtle plot not this whole "vergeance in the force" bullshit.

Don't get me wrong, there are a LOT of issues with the PT (Qui-Gon's existence, Anakin being "too old" was bullshit - he was the right age but OBI-WAN was supposed to be too old, Yoda was meant to train Obi-Wan, the Clone Wars was barely addressed, the Dark Times were not even addressed, Anakin was a whiny little brat, when he seems like he would have been the Jedi equivalent to a preppy, goodie-two-shoes know-it-all kid at a boarding school who unexpectedly turned to the dark side, the idea of the midichlorians, Jar-Jar and the Gungans, the whole Kamino/Clone conspiracy crap, the over use of CGI, etc etc) - even with all that terrible stuff, it would be ignorant and foolish to deny the good things that also came with the PT (however few it may be to you).

I think you may misunderstand my intentions - I'm not saying that those are things that should or should not be cut in a fan-edit, I'm saying those are things Lucas should have kept in mind when making the PT.

Yoda would only be necessary if he was actually useful and himself, but he isn't in the films. So he needs to be cut or you need to call up Frank Oz and reanimate him to be important in the PT.