Doctor M said:
TheDigitalBits.com reported today that there will be a new take on Pastoral's censoring on BD. "More seamless" using newer digital tools.
What got me, is they commented that bootleg uncensored cuts are available if you know where to look.
I wasn't aware of this. If we don't know where to look, who does?
Dr. M
Doctor M said:
Doctor M said:
TheDigitalBits.com reported today that there will be a new take on Pastoral's censoring on BD. "More seamless" using newer digital tools.
What got me, is they commented that bootleg uncensored cuts are available if you know where to look.
I wasn't aware of this. If we don't know where to look, who does?
Well, hopefully the censor job is better. I don't really care about it as much as others. I would like to see Disney use the widescreen version. Not to shit on the original full screen presentation, I just think it would be more fitting with what I would like to do.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Would the widescreen version have been anything other than a crop job though?
There is a murky glimpse of a widescreen used in a mixing session here:
Where were you in '77?
SilverWook said:
Would the widescreen version have been anything other than a crop job though?
There is a murky glimpse of a widescreen used in a mixing session here:
Well, according to that it was a crop job. I dunno, I could do some experimentation, but most likely it will stay Full Screen. Thanks for the post.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Why would fantasia have a widescreen version? It came out in 1940 when movies were shown in standard.
I also boycotted the release and left a negative review on amazon.
Take back the trilogy. Execute Order '77
Knightmessenger said:
Why would fantasia have a widescreen version? It came out in 1940 when movies were shown in standard.
I also boycotted the release and left a negative review on amazon.
It was a crop job in the mid 50's. I was thinking of doing my own, but I've decided not to.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Judging from this review, they didn't crop it, but instead went Stretch-o-rama(!):
http://news.google.co.uk/newspapers?id=7OxjAAAAIBAJ&sjid=v5UDAAAAIBAJ&dq=fantasia%20superscope&pg=2127%2C4278836
A great little review, and the final paragraph of the review could easily refer to Star Wars, or Pan and Scan releases, 3-D-ification, etc....
SilverWook said:
Would the widescreen version have been anything other than a crop job though?
There is a murky glimpse of a widescreen used in a mixing session here:
No, that's not the case. Walt's original intention for Fantasia was both multi-channel sound AND widescreen. How do I know this? Walt Disney himself told me, on the 2000 Fantasia DVD second commentary track! At about 61:41 minutes in, Walt says that he "planned to double the size of the screen", but that the bankers wouldn't let him, and he had to be content with Fantasound only. I believe that photograph is proof of what Walt said. What process would Walt have used? Nobody's ever said, but I always suspected something like the 65mm process used for 1930's "The Bat Whispers", something that would have cost a lot more money to produce and is a 2.0:1 aspect ratio similar to the 2.14:1 dimensions shown in the photograph.
http://www.in70mm.com/news/2005/bat_whispers/index.htm
I forwarded this info to Marty Hart, but he hasn't ever updated his website. I should send him another email...
Cserveguy
Disney might have dreamed of widescreen, but Fantasia was defiantly made at academy ratio (1.37:1). The latter widescreen re release was a crop/stretch job.
penguinofgreatness said:
Disney might have dreamed of widescreen, but Fantasia was defiantly made at academy ratio (1.37:1). The latter widescreen re release was a crop/stretch job.
Sorry if there was any confusion, I was referring only to the photo, not of the subsequent 50s widescreen issue of Fantasia, which was indeed a crop. I wanted to clear up why that photograph had a clearly visible widescreen in view during the scoring session for Fantasia.
Cserveguy
Oh, okay.
hello,
have some of you downloaded the video of pastoral symphony restored by Andrea Ippoliti ?
Unfortunately, this video is no longer available on his blog .
( see http://classiccartoons.blogspot.fr/2008/07/return-of-sunflower.html )
Thank you very much for your response and your help
ngege.
Disney should really stop marketing Fantasia as a movie for kids anyway. My experience with the 70’s and 90’s theatrical reissues was that many kids get really bored with it when Mickey is not on screen, or get the screaming meemies even before Night on Bald Mountain. 😉
I have heard of some people who’d agree with you but it surprises me. When I was a child, not a VERY long time ago, me and my friends used to watch Fantasia. We all liked it, and I couldn’t even think of it as boring. Recently I was lucky enough to be in a live concert featuring Fantasia. A lot of the audience was, in fact, children - and I could hear most of them were really exited watching it, except one 3-years-old kid who was sitting behind me and yelling “home”… So I’d say Fantasia is good for childern once they turn 5 years old. But of course it’s a matter of opinion. I can’t say all children would like Fantasia as I can’t say all adults would like it.
“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows
Hello everyone, Class316 and I are trying to start another Fantasia preservation project! Someone on Ebay is selling a 1990 35mm print. It appears to be in great shape but the price is high and we need your help in funding! Donors will get early access to the scanned reels.
“After all, the best part of a holiday is perhaps not so much to be resting yourself, as to see all the other fellows busy working”
-The wind in the willows