STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW — Page 774

... Cute! :)

Really don't get how it looks "fake". If anything, with the colour correction that's been done, it looks more real, no?

The one and only thing I disagree with in that scene is how the Ion blast has electricity around it (rather than causing the electrical disruption on impact, which is how I've always seen it) but this is Ady's edit, not mine.

INVAR said:

BmB said:

That would be the transport escape scene, I always look forward to it and I always get a thrill from it, it's one of the few small victories for the rebels in the movie, and as such is so much more enjoyable. Apart from looking incredibly fake in the trailer, having one x-wing shot down like that complete destroys that moment of victory.

It's probably going to be one of the few, if not the only change in the edit that might keep it from replacing GOUT for me.

 

I guess I don't comprehend how you could come to that opinion.

Adywan's addition in this incredible sequence adds the weight of peril and gravitas that was only merely hinted at in the original.  It showcases the desperation the rebels faced in that cell being able to escape an Imperial blockade, and how impossible it would have been without the Ion cannon.

Plus, Adywan's addition gives Reikkan's concern later on in the battle, much more weight when he says "I don't think we can protect two transports at a time".  The fact we see one escort obliterated by Imperial fire in Adywan's edit explains the risk the rebels faced by trying to send two transports at once to escape.

Also, logically, after the commander says "Good, our first catch of the day" - why is the Destroyer NOT firing at the escaping transport and escorts?  Adywan fixes that logical omission.

That an X-wing pilot is lost in that opening salvo of the Battle of Hoth is PERFECT.  The victory is in ESCAPING the Empire, the sacrifices adding to it's cost, and importance.

Totally agree. The rebels are the symbol, that a few clever and creative solider far more superior, than the brainwashed and robotic imperial troopers.

Dear Everyone Who is Still Thinking of Posting in Regards to BmB's Post,

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vbangle said:

BmB said:

That would be the transport escape scene,... Apart from looking incredibly fake in the trailer, having one x-wing shot down like that complete destroys that moment of victory.

 

Name me one other person besides you that feels that way.....LMAO.

 

^ Or a space parachute perhaps ? :)

I'm not in disagreement with what DE just said. But if anyone, and notably the author, wants to experience something "else", it is in their own right.

TV's Frink said:

......↑ ... Is it what I think it is ? (A politico-controversial cold food ?)

*Takes a handful and passes it on*

*sprinkles some salt on top*

*takes a handful*

*passes it on*

I didn't think one x-wing was a big deal. It actually always bothered me that no one gets shot down in that scene.  To each their own though.

I didn't care for the lightsabery needle in ANH, but no big deal considering how awesome everything else was.

adywan said:

BmB said:

 Apart from looking incredibly fake in the trailer, having one x-wing shot down like that complete destroys that moment of victory.

Incredibly fake? In what way does it look "Incredibly" fake? And having one X-Wing shot down doesn't change anything. The victory is still there. The Stardestroyer is disabled and the transport escapes.

The X-wing just stops dead in it's tracks and turns into an animated explosion clip. In high contrast to the way nearly every other X-wing death is portrayed in the OT. If not every single one.

Second, it changes everything, as DE touched upon, the mood is dramatically affected from an unexpected and very pleasantly surprising victory - you know they're in for it, the empire knows they're in for it, they know they're in for it... but the Ion cannon knows something else - to simply another needlessly gritty, unpleasant and unsatisfying half-victory. It goes from the most enjoyable scene to the most pointless scene of the movie just like that.

Personally, I think this is getting blown out of proportion. Firstly, it doesn't look fake, not at all. I think most of us can agree with that. The X-Wing stops dead in its tracks because it just met a blast from a Star Destroyer head-on. Vaporized - instantly.

Secondly, Who says this scene has to be a 100% victory for the rebels. How was it ever a victory anyways? They are getting their asses kicked down on Hoth, and are forced to escape before their base is completely obliterated. That doesn't sound much like a victory to me. They are escaping by the skin of their teeth. That's not a victory - it's a desparate emergency exodus. The whole film is dark, including the Battle of Hoth. It seems much more believable and exciting to me now that Star Destroyers literally fire on the escaping ships.

This is war after all. Did the fact that X-Wings and Y-Wings got destroyed during the Trench run in A New Hope take away from the Victory of the Death Star getting destroyed?

... At least the first transport is away ! :D

I never understood why they had to pass so close to ONE Star Destroyer...

adywan said:

It goes from the most enjoyable scene to the most pointless scene of the movie just like that.

Most pointless scene? Talk about over exaggeration. This whole scene never sat well with me since 1980. It seemed pretty pointless and unrealistic. The Empire have just turned up and started a blockade around the planet. They are preparing to kick the rebels asses. So what do they do? They see the first transport and 2 x-wings heading towards them, with no other stardestroyers in sight, and just sits there and waits until it flies straight at it. Oh wait, what if it suddenly turned away from the stardestroyer? oh well, that one slipped by. Oh come on. If they are their to wipe the rebels out, which they planned to do with aerial bombardments, they certainly wouldn't have just sat there. They would have tried to destroy the transport and it's escorts. Vader knew Luke wouldn't be on one of those transports so they would have been just cannon fodder.

As it stood originally it just looked like an easy escape. There was no sense of danger apart from one stationary stardestroyer that was doing sod all. It wasn't a surprising victory at all. I never felt that the transport was in any danger of being captured or destroyed. I always wondered why they just sat there and so did a lot of other people.

They never change course, they never "just sit there". The reason they aren't firing is because the ships are out of range obviously. They don't do anything when the transport flies past because they are busy being disabled by the ion cannon. It's an easy escape yes, but only because the empire completely underestimated the power of the ion cannon, which it what makes it so enjoyable. Why should it be a hard gritty trudge to escape when you have such a powerful weapon to back you up? That would just be frustrating to watch.

As it stands it has an emotional place in the battle. With your changes it means nothing and is completely pointless.