Star Wars OT & 1997 Special Edition - Various Projects Info (Released) — Page 20

Is the new one OK?

New what ?

sorry, it was directed to Darth Mallwalker, the new '93 ANH PCM.

Looks that we posted at the same moment and I'd bet you haven't seen my last post (previous page).

You are right, I did not see your response, but I have now, I say let's just stay with the video you have the sample to, the main thing to this project anyways is the audio, not the video, at least for me anyways, because either way the video is going to have a low bit rate anyhow because we need it for the RAW PCM(wav) or the DTS.

We'll do as you say. You are in command. ;)

OK if anyone is following this I have a sample for you to check out, it is of the ANH v3, the video is only a 1 pass with a low bit rate, I don't have DL DVD-RW's so I have to make a crappy video version to test the audio files, this sample has ALL 5 audio files for you to take a listen to, and here is the order they are in:

track 1 - '77 Mono
track 2 - '77 Theatrical
track 3 - '77 DD 5.1 upmix
track 4 - '85 Stereo remix (taken for Japanese Special Collection)
track 5 - '93 Stereo mix

http://www.sendspace.com/file/u7h8gk

Interesting, I'll have to check on that.  I don't think I ever really noticed it before, though I may have been peripherally aware of it at some point, because that seems vaguely familiar.  Reckon a small patch from the theatrical stereo would probably cover that up pretty well, especially if it is very short.

I'd been toying with the idea of revising the LFE channel for RotJ, since the last time I listened to it there were a few parts that seemed a little excessive.  Guess this would provide another reason to give it a second look.

Nobody ever noticed the right channel was lower in the ESB GOUT stereomix ? I noticed right away when I listened random parts of it. Watching the waveform in Audacity only confirmed.

Perhaps it is due to downmixing then it is better to be left that way for a matter of equilibrium (that sould be easy to check if it "kills" the relief of the sound or not lifting the right channel).

-Edit: well, taking a closer look I'd avoid touching it.

Darth Mallwalker said:

 

And ABC asked: Does Audacity suck? Well, I haven't stopped using it yet :)
If it makes unsolicited changes, then that would suck.
I haven't witnessed it personally, although I am NOT trying to discount your own experience.
I'll watch closely, and keep it on a very short leash in future. Thanks for the warning

 

You see me reassured. ;)

Well, the only thing I noticed that sucked is when you erase a bit of a track directly with the "delete" button on the keyboard, what provocates a "micro-nudge"... But once you know it it's easy to manage by choosing the "silence" or choose another "delete" option (sorry my version is French so I may lack of precision here).

For other kinds of change I haven't witnessed nothing, and tried to find about that on the net with no result. So that should be fine.

By the way, I use the last 1.3 Beta version, and it's far better than the previous one.

I agree with Erik.

That '77 DD 5.1 upmix is on a completely different level in terms of sound quality over the others and it brings a whole new life into the movie.

Erikstormtrooper said:

Dark Jedi,

I just checked out your V3 sample on my 5.1 system. The picture quality is passable (I know it's just rough, and it is from the GOUT after all). Hairy Hen's 5.1 mix is the star of the bunch though (it shows as 3/2.1 on my player). It sounds very full compared to all the others, even when my receiver tries to upmix them to 5.1.

If I may make a humble suggestion, I would recommend you make Hairy Hen's 5.1 track the first track. I'd hate for someone (who doesn't know how to change audio tracks) to judge this disc by the default mono mix.

Maybe this:

track 1 - '77 DD 5.1 upmix
track 2 - '77 Theatrical
track 3 - '77 Mono
track 4 - '85 Stereo remix (taken for Japanese Special Collection)
track 5 - '93 Stereo mix

That is actually the order in which the tracks were released.

 I agree. The default should definitely be the 5.1. The order of the rest matters less, release order seems to make the most sense but its not so important as having them, but I think the 5.1 as default is the smartest bet (perhaps with the theatrical stereo as number 2, for the people who dont have 5.1 and hit the change-audio button).

Darth Mallwalker,

another thing I just observed on Audacity, is that some processes like the equalizer (wich one I only use occasionnaly) used on a whole track may shift your track... Very annoying when you have precise edited parts. Best way, if you tracks allows it - mines being surrounded with silence, so it's ok - is to select the part you have to process... Then I'd go for: Audacity sucks if you don't pay attention. ;)

I am not sure which will be the default, and there will be a menu for the audio selection anyways, nothing is set in stone yet.

zombie84, I am a bit surprised you are even following this, or did you need these audio options for your ED3?

@ Darth Mallwalker,
are you sure you uploaded the right file? if so what is DC48 DVD.wv? that is what the file is after unraring, it is also only 543 MB's, kind of small isn't it? well whatever it is can anyone else get this file to work, it is useless for me.

Is there anyone here that can convert this file back to wav or to FLAC and reup it, my system will not do anything with this wv stuff, who uses this format anyways? I have never heard of it, so for now it still is useless to me.

dark_jedi said:

I am not sure which will be the default, and there will be a menu for the audio selection anyways, nothing is set in stone yet.

zombie84, I am a bit surprised you are even following this, or did you need these audio options for your ED3?

(That really bugs you that I poopooed your earlier ones doesn't it? )

As I said before this version seems to look like it has sorted out most of the video problems of earlier ones so I hope not.

zombie84 said:

(That really bugs you that I poopooed your earlier ones doesn't it? )

Get over yourself dude, you don't mean anything to me, let alone bother me, just can't believe you are following this at all, and as you stated over and over, it was g-forces script, all I did was encode for everyone who did not, or could not encode one for themselves, just helping people out, which I have done for years and years.

Damn I am glad we have a friggin ignore button here.

Moth3r said:

.wv files are WavPack files - a lossless audio compression format like FLAC. If you use WavPack to decode the file you'll end up with an uncompressed WAV.

This just will NOT decode for me at all, I have Windows 7 64 bit and every time I think I have it, the sfv files says it is bad, so looks like I will just stick with the old version, it is only the '93 audio anyways.

* edit, well I just tried foobar(latest beta version) and it seems to decode but the sfv says it is bad.