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I was going to say the same except for 5.1!

Erikstormtrooper said:

dark_jedi, hairy hen's 70mm mix would be great!

already happening.

Cool, I'm glad to see there is demand for the 70mm version.  Satanika just sent me the 5.1 AC3 a couple days ago, but I can't test it completely yet because I'm visiting my family and they don't have a 5.1 setup here.  My preliminary listen in 2-channel on headphones showed that the volume level was somewhat lower than the source files, but I'm not sure why since there is no dialnorm or DRC in the encode.  Perhaps it is just my computer being funky with the playback, and bitstreaming it out will yield the proper sound.  I should be back home and able to test it out early next week--I'm hesitant to make it generally available until I'm sure nothing is wrong, but it's definitely worth waiting a bit for, because the full sound complete with LFE channel is entirely awesome.

It would be kinda neat if this version included the 35mm stereo, mono, and 70mm 5.1 soundtracks all together, so the complete theatrical auditory experience would be available on one disc.  ;)

For Empire and Jedi, 70mm recreations aren't strictly possible, but the '93 and 5.1 soundtracks on the previous versions already sound great.  I've been considering doing small revisions on Empire, to substitute the hacked up music cues with how they are in the SE and add the missing snowspeeder sound, but those are only minor changes.  Jedi I believe I am quite satisfied with as it is.

How much of an improvement are G-Force's new scripts compared to the earlier ones?  I'd been planning on doing encodes myself, but my computer takes about a week to do each one, which is kind of inconvenient.

it takes me 12-14 hours to render lossless avi files and about 2 hours to encode.

and I was about to PM Satanika about the very same issue, the file seems a little low in volume.

Oldschooljedi said:

Thank you for posting these, I'll make final encodes when I find the time (can't actually wait).

You deleted the line

'PAL = false       # <-----Set to false for NTSC, true for PAL'

in you final scripts so are these only for NTSC-DVDs?

 Yeah, sorry man, there are just too many things that are specific to the NTSC version that I don't have the time to change them all for the PAL (hey, I don't even have time to do ROTJ and it would be about the same amount of work)

-G

g-force said:

(hey, I don't even have time to do ROTJ and it would be about the same amount of work)

-G

Well if you need help testing,rendering, encoding, I have time to help you just like we did in the past, because all I have left to do on the other 2 is encode then put it all together, the lossless avi's are done on both now.

How big is the lossless avi for one film?

I'm trying to figure out if I will have enough free space to just use a local drive, or if I have to utilize my file server.  Thanks

ANH=61 GB, ESB=61.9 GB.

dark_jedi said:

g-force said:

(hey, I don't even have time to do ROTJ and it would be about the same amount of work)

-G

Well if you need help testing,rendering, encoding, I have time to help you just like we did in the past, because all I have left to do on the other 2 is encode then put it all together, the lossless avi's are done on both now.

 

What? You mean like on the project where you flaked out and erased all the files off your hard drive because you found out that I had offered some advise to someone else who was doing a similar project? Or are you talking about your previous encode where you took my code and changed a couple of things and called it your own with no acknowledgments? Or maybe you're referring to the time I gave you a script for color correction and told you just to evaluate it to see if it had promise and specifically asked you not to post anything because it was too preliminary, and then within a couple hours you had screenshots posted. Or like on my last encode where you were suspicious that the script was any better and slammed me for the encoder I was using?

Yeah, I'll be just like old times! Where do I sign up?

-G

*tiptoes out of thread quietly*

g-force said:

 Yeah, sorry man, there are just too many things that are specific to the NTSC version that I don't have the time to change them all for the PAL (hey, I don't even have time to do ROTJ and it would be about the same amount of work)

-G

No problem, I will keep my eyes open at the usual places then to get ANH and ESB then.

As you said your new daughter needs your time I knew what you meant, I have a little boy too.

g-force said:

dark_jedi said:

g-force said:

(hey, I don't even have time to do ROTJ and it would be about the same amount of work)

-G

Well if you need help testing,rendering, encoding, I have time to help you just like we did in the past, because all I have left to do on the other 2 is encode then put it all together, the lossless avi's are done on both now.

 

 

What? You mean like on the project where you flaked out and erased all the files off your hard drive because you found out that I had offered some advise to someone else who was doing a similar project? Or are you talking about your previous encode where you took my code and changed a couple of things and called it your own with no acknowledgments? Or maybe you're referring to the time I gave you a script for color correction and told you just to evaluate it to see if it had promise and specifically asked you not to post anything because it was too preliminary, and then within a couple hours you had screenshots posted. Or like on my last encode where you were suspicious that the script was any better and slammed me for the encoder I was using?

Yeah, I'll be just like old times! Where do I sign up?

-G

Yes whatever dude, I never claim ANYONE'S work as my own, EVER!, so you stay perched on your high and mighty horse, sorry for saying anything, maybe someday you will finish and share with everyone your hard works your self then, and NO ONE is perfect, well except you ofcourse.

NO need to even read this shit anymore.

Asta La Vista Big Guy, Internet sure makes some people really big, bad, and tough LOL

OH and one more thing this is the NFO included with everything uploaded, please read and then tell me I do not give credit.

DVD Specs:

Star Wars - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2),77 mono Mix Dolby 1.0 @ 96 (track 3)

Empire Strikes Back - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

Return Of The Jedi - 16:9 anamorphic video,English subtitles(from GOUT),93 LD audio DD 2.0 @ 384 (track 1),93 LD audio DD 5.1 upmix @ 448 (track 2)

*access the audio options and subtitles from the button on your DVD player remote.

Here is what they weigh in at:

Star Wars 6.43 GB's
Empire Strikes Back 6.57 GB's
Return Of The Jedi 6.90 GB's

and all were CCE SP 6 pass encoded at an avg of 6500.


I would really like to thank these guy's for all there help and the sharing of files,without the files and the help,these very nice projects would NOT have been possible,so a HUGE Thank you to,
g-force
hairy_hen
satanika
Doctor M
Moth3r
Belbucus

HMMM, looks like you are mentioned first, Funny huh?

This post is to everyone else that is following this thread and hoping I make available another option to just his upload only, I have been accused by "g" as being a cheat, I use HIS work and claim it as my own and do NOT even give credit, well if you have followed this thread and my own as well as read the NFO included in ALL other uploads you will see that this is clearly BS! if you have followed this from the start you would have read HIM and others recieved a ton of credit and I also state that these releases would NOT have been made without it.

The versions I did were and are alternates to his, he used a freeware encoder, and yes I knocked it and still do, mine were multi-pass encoded with CCE SP2 with average bitrate of 6500 and I had some different audio options(Thanks to hairy_hen and satanika,and others), where he used ONLY the GOUT audio, in my thread I was asking you guys to give me your input on the audio this time around, and was hoping to get ANH and ESB out in a few days(encoding is finished on both) but was hoping ROTJ was not far from finished, well I offered help and as you have already read, I now know exactly where we stand, which for me is great because now I know!

In closing, I guess I should NOT release them because I don't want him to think I am stealing HIS work again and not giving credit, so hopefully his versions will appear for you guys soon, we will see.

All I can say is that it would be a shame if your new versions weren't released d_j, but I appreciate the work you did on your original versions.

Of course I appreciate the work g-force did as well, though I have not been following this thread enough to know the full story.

dark_jedi said:

In closing, I guess I should NOT release them because I don't want him to think I am stealing HIS work again and not giving credit, so hopefully his versions will appear for you guys soon, we will see.

Well what actual intellectual property you have in this project? Because testing, encoding, capturing and such things doesn't qualify as essential work. Sure these operations takes time too, but they're not too complicated and a lots of others could have done that.

The essence of this project is probably the script itself which puts the quality of the GOUT onto a new level. The NFO file suggests you was the one who did the hard work, and others helped you, but it's probably isn't true. G-force should be taking the main credit* and writing a "thanks to" list mentioning you, not the other way around.

(*Others should take large credits too who edited and improved the audio tracks.)

Correct me if I'm wrong and you actually put heavy mindwork into improving the video or audio quality. Really it isn't meant to be an offensive post towards to you, I just couldn't resist commenting the situation.

By the way, CCE isn't a good encoder at all. You should knock that too.

zee944 said:

By the way, CCE isn't a good encoder at all. You should knock that too.

Then what is in your opinion?

dark_jedi said:

Yes whatever dude, I never claim ANYONE'S work as my own, EVER!, so you stay perched on your high and mighty horse, sorry for saying anything, maybe someday you will finish and share with everyone your hard works your self then, and NO ONE is perfect, well except you ofcourse.

NO need to even read this shit anymore.

Asta La Vista Big Guy, Internet sure makes some people really big, bad, and tough LOL

 Hey DJ, I may have over-reacted a bit. What do you say we just put it all behind us, as I'm sure people are looking forward to having some different audio options on this thing. That was something I never really got to, and it's nice that you care enough to do that.

Sorry, I never actually saw the credits on your release before, so I made some assumptions and that just makes an a** out of me.

Please don't get mad at anyone else here because of some sophmoric comments I made. I apologize.

-G

apologize for what? it is already behind me, I am older now and I can forgive and forget, NO grudges.

Thanks for these again and looking forward to ROTJ to finish up the Trilogy.

Hey guys, great to see all is forgiven.  Looking forward to your work!

dark_jedi said:

zee944 said:

By the way, CCE isn't a good encoder at all. You should knock that too.

Then what is in your opinion?

Canopus Procoder 1.5. There are a few other encoders which are better than CCE, but who cares about them when you've Canopus?