adywan said:
Actually that shot of Yoda was originally taken from where he climbs up on the mound to raise the X-wing but they placed it there instead and flipped the shot and caused the continuity error where he is suddenly in a different place. I've reinstated the shot where it should have been and re-flipped it. I haven't figured out what i will be putting in its place though
As for the falcon needing more of an orange hue, i think you are looking at the 2004 version because in the original whole sequence the falcon had almost no orange hue to it at all and in some shots it had none at all. They tinted everything red in 2004 and it was a mess and i'm not prepared to tint it any more than it is now because it doesn't need it. And the falcon doesn't need to be darker when it passes in front of the sun. Check this clip out:
http://alwayshd.com/ViewClip.php?Clip_Name=912140101&Tape_Name=9121401
Now the plane darkens very slightly, but not much as it passes the sun, but if you notice the light from the sun bleeds around the plane giving this illusion. In the clip of the falcon the sun is still behind the clouds and the falcon never passes so that the light bleeds around it, so it wouldn't darken.
The plane is pretty black in the frames where the sun is directly behind it. Granted, it lasts maybe a split second or two (if that long), but it's just the nature of having a bright light source behind an object, whether directly behind or in that general area. Also, this is high noon bright daylight as opposed to a dawn or dusk shot, so there is going to be ambient lighting bouncing from the ground (and probably 100% natural sunlight at its peak), which is why the plane's underbelly is immediately highly visible after it makes the pass by the sun.
When the Falcon approaches Cloud City, be it morning or dusk, the orange hue of the clouds themselves are going to cast an ambient orange light onto the Falcon.. not much, but it will be noticeable. Also, considering that you show the Cloud Car even cast a shadow as it moves in front of the sun, the Falcon is going to at least be a bit darker, as it appears to be too bright considering the time of day and the fact that it still crosses path with the primary light source, being the sun, which is behind it. When the Falcon covers the sun, the only other source of lighting would be the ambient light reflecting from the clouds and the city itself, which have an orange hue.
even watching this again, the cloud cars darken and even cast a shadow when moving past the light source/sun. The Falcon (especially when it is to the right of the cloud, immediately before moving past the sun and the camera swinging around) looks either too bright (in comparison to the cloud right next to it) or there is not enough detail... something just looks odd or CGI about it. Even so, if the cloud car casts a shadow, shouldn't the Falcon do so as well? Even if we don't see the shadow being cast (as the Falcon covers the entire frame of view and we would essentially be in the shadow), it would still BE in shadow per the cloud car.
Both look about the same, as the Falcon is out in the open. There is still going to be a slight orange hue on the Falcon due to the ambient orange light reflecting from the clouds and sky.
the Falcon should be very dark, as it is behind the cloud, which would be blocking a lot of the direct sunlight, per the 2004 image.
I would have to add that the appearance of the cloud cars in the 2004 appear more correct as well, as they are as dark if not darker than the cloud they are passing. I also understand that this is also the reason that the cloud car models go "above and around the cloud", as if they passed more directly in front of it in a straight "leftward" movement they would almost disappear due to their darkness (as seen below).
A suggestion would be to put running lights onto the cloud cars.
the Falcon should be much darker on the underside, due to the extreme lightsource being nearly directly behind it, combined with the time of day (dawn or dusk).
the Falcon would appear more orange-ish per the 2004 shot due to the light reflecting off of Cloud City itself. Being that later on in the "high noon" shots of Cloud City, we see that CC is white/ivory in color, this shot shows how a white object (CC) looks at this time of day and with that particular lighting. As the Falcon is not as white as CC, it should at least have a similar or slightly darker color tone in synch with CC, as they are both being lit from the same light sources (directly from a rising sun and indirectly from the light bouncing off the clouds and atmosphere).
2004 vs Ady
granted, we are aware of the manipulations done (such as the blue hue on Hoth), but would this still be more visually accurate, as the Falcon has the same dark orange hue as Cloud City, being that both are lit from the same light source?
I also understand that this is still a work in progress and EMPIRE:R still has a long way to go, so I understand that this is not a final shot.
