Superman 4

is so shit!

That's all

Hmmm... if I had to chose between 4 and Returns...  hmmm.... hmmm... is suicide a third option?

I'd rather suck feral hog balls than watch Superman Returns ever again. However, I'd much rather watch Superman 4 than suck feral hog balls.

All of you seem to be OK with domesticated hog balls.

Only if they're vegetarian...

"Superman IV" had an excuse for sucking so bad. I try not to pass harsh judgment on the actors, director, or writers of that mess. The blame must be laid on the producers alone, and their film company Cannon. They went belly up just before filming was to start. The company did not just go broke, they were involved in some nasty business that caused this financial mess.

Things like massive out of control unpaid debts, criminal investigations and allegations, fleeing from justice, suspicious office fires... 

Huge changes had to be made to the already finished script, and planed lavish production design. The budget was slashed to nothing. As a result the entire creative team (Actors, Special Effects, Music, Director, Writers) who where already signed on board and under contract, could not do the job they had intended or signed on for. The heads of Cannon are to blame for this mess.  On the other hand, "Superman Returns" had huge amounts of cash on hand and positive studio support. I say, that the failure of "Returns" is more the fault of the entire creative team. 

Yeah, it was never going to work on a slashed budget. (I mean, Metropolis in Milton Keynes?)

A lot of people slate Superman III as well, but I remember watching that in the cinema and really enjoying it.

Superman 3 was great when you were 6!  And before you knew anything about computers.

And the Kent vs Superman scene is still tops!

Moth3r said:

Yeah, it was never going to work on a slashed budget. (I mean, Metropolis in Milton Keynes?)

 And the Kent farm / Smallville stuff was filmed in Baldock, Herts.....and where do I live (calm down girls..don't all rush here at once...girls on here...yeah riiighttt) ....Baldock...Whoop Whoop to me.

That's the least of the films flaws...The biggest being...How in the hell did that chick Nuclear man had with him, survive in space??? 

Oh yeah... Nuclear man... yeah - shit film.

The bit where the woman gets sucked into all the wires and turns into a robot or whatever.. that bit used to scare the shit out of me when I was a kid.  But think that might be Superman 3.

Yes that was in Superman 3.

Superman 2 was possibly a little dark for children. I remember thinking (must have been about 7 years old) what would be the worst way to die - losing all the air from my spacesuit, being crushed in a lunar module or floating away into space.

I compiled a list of things that Supes does in SR that bring me to believe that he has reverted to his evil persona from SIII

1. He is waring a darker colored suit that is strikingly similar to the bad supes costume in 3

2. Scares the shit out of his Ma when he sneaks up behind her

3. Fucks the baseball over the Horizon on his dog!

4. Cracks the photo frame of his ex lover.

5. Rips the wings of the plane

6. Interrupts a Baseball game & probably scares the shit out of most of the people there as he unceremoniously drops the plane in the middle of the playing field (how many betting shops lost money on this one alone?)

7. The infamous Super stalker scene

8. Trashes the windows of the Daily Planet with no regard for the people on the streets getting rained on by glass

9. Crushed Some poor dudes car with a Giant globe (I'm pretty sure that one isn't covered by the insurance company)

10. Leaves hospital without paying his bills

11. Not to Mention going into a young boys bedroom while he sleeps with out the kids legal guardians consent!

I know the above is not related to the Quest for peace but its supes none the less

Nice list, but SR takes place in a world without SupesIII.  Explain that one!