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That's because it's got a space at the end. Just click, drag, copy and paste.

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To re-visit a concept I had a while back, I think it would be pretty do-able to digitally tweak Sebastian Shaw at the very end of ROTJ to better represent Anakin's "canon" age in the franchise.

Basically, the changes are as follows:

1) added shading on his neck to make it look less flabby

2) Re-colored hair to look like fading blonde rather than gray

3) added a layer of skintone in some spots to hide some of the wrinkles (mainly aroung the chin/mouth)

4) Used a mesh to push in the ears and sides of the cheeks to make them look younger (since a we age our ears get bigger, and sometimes our cheeks and necks puff out)

Here's a comparison:

As you can see, the original is pretty clearly an elderly man, whereas the retouched one looks more like a middle-aged man, which is more in line with what Anakin is supposed to be at this point.

And, for old time's sake, here's a comparison of the retouched version of Shaw with that very out of place, vacant-eyed Hayden Christensen footage from the 2006 DVD.

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That is awesome! Looks good, I'd be happy with that although I'd still prefer an alternative. I don't want him to look like Shaw but I don't think he should look the same as he did in RotS either. I'm still voting for the morph. Also, I think his clothes should be replaced with his dark tunic from the PT.

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darthmunky said:

That is awesome! Looks good, I'd be happy with that although I'd still prefer an alternative. I don't want him to look like Shaw but I don't think he should look the same as he did in RotS either. I'm still voting for the morph. Also, I think his clothes should be replaced with his dark tunic from the PT.

I agree. 

But @ Timstuff - that looks ace :)

I’m gonna be a father! - ETA December 24th 2017

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There we go: Anakin with PT-style robes. I gotta say, it really does enhance the shot even further.

As for composites... I did some experiments with them, but ultimately they just looked too friggin' creepy for me to finish them. On top of that, I never liked the idea of implementing Hayden into ROTJ in the first place. Post-Sith Anakin is always going to be part of Sebastian Shaw's legacy, and I never liked the idea of stepping all over it just to tie the two trilogies together tighter. For two generations (the theatrical Warsies and the VHS Warsies) Shaw was the face of Anakin Skywalker, so I don't think that should be taken away from him.

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Timstuff said:

There we go: Anakin with PT-style robes. I gotta say, it really does enhance the shot even further.

 

I have to agree with Vaderios and company: Anakin is not going to look like Hayden for the simple reason that Vader died as an old(er) man, not as a young Hayden.  Look at Yoda and Ben; they are not their younger selves, but as they were when they died - you know, Ben looks as he did when Vader/Anakin kinda killed him.

So why isn't Ben giving Anakin a big punch in the face ("And now we can rest in peace... which reminds me.. POW!  That's for what you did to me on the Death Star, you bastard)?

         

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Monroville said:

Timstuff said:

There we go: Anakin with PT-style robes. I gotta say, it really does enhance the shot even further.

 

I have to agree with Vaderios and company: Anakin is not going to look like Hayden for the simple reason that Vader died as an old(er) man, not as a young Hayden.  Look at Yoda and Ben; they are not their younger selves, but as they were when they died - you know, Ben looks as he did when Vader/Anakin kinda killed him.

So why isn't Ben giving Anakin a big punch in the face ("And now we can rest in peace... which reminds me.. POW!  That's for what you did to me on the Death Star, you bastard)?

Well old Ben did dismember Anakin and leave him to burn to death, I think he had a right to be pissed.

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Ok I know I've been told off before for suggesting that the ghost Anakin should have more hair akin to Hayden's 'do in ROTS, but I did go overboard with my mock-ups before. I've just added some subtle touches to Timstuff's pic. I know he's middle aged at this point - but come on Obi-Wan has a neat fringe and he's 16 years older than Anakin. I've just added a little bit....he deserves it :)

Btw I love the added Jedi Outfit from the prequels - more apt. Well done Timstuff. ;)

 

I’m gonna be a father! - ETA December 24th 2017

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Darth Chronus said:

Ok I know I've been told off before for suggesting that the ghost Anakin should have more hair akin to Hayden's 'do in ROTS...

Spoken by someone who is blessed with plenty of hair lol.

 

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TV's Frink said:

Darth Chronus said:

Ok I know I've been told off before for suggesting that the ghost Anakin should have more hair akin to Hayden's 'do in ROTS...

Spoken by someone who is blessed with plenty of hair lol.

 

You mean me? Then yes I have lots of hair (no bald patch either). I'm 19 and it looks like the receding hairline business probably won't set in until my late 40s/early 50s just like most of the men in my family.  

I’m gonna be a father! - ETA December 24th 2017

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love the new Anakin! looks great :D

ive got an idea, what about adding the two suns from TPM/ANH:R, to when the Falcon and X-Wing are leaving Tatooine?

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Good idea on the suns.  Added to the list.  Didn't add the Anakin debate, as I already have like 3 different versions on there.

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Anakin is not going to look like Hayden for the simple reason that Vader died as an old(er) man, not as a young Hayden.  Look at Yoda and Ben; they are not their younger selves, but as they were when they died

Yes, but apparently when Anakin turned to the dark side, he became Darth Vader and Anakin died. Obi-Wan and Yoda even said that.

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darthmunky said:

Anakin is not going to look like Hayden for the simple reason that Vader died as an old(er) man, not as a young Hayden.  Look at Yoda and Ben; they are not their younger selves, but as they were when they died

Yes, but apparently when Anakin turned to the dark side, he became Darth Vader and Anakin died. Obi-Wan and Yoda even said that.

That is Lucas point of view indeed, and why not. But "there is still good in him..." after all, so you can also say that at the end of ROTJ it is Anakin who died. And we even see his face as an older man. So it is jarring to see Hayden's face at the very end (specialy if you choose to watch ep 4-5-6 before ep 1-2-3).

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Lol maybe we should do something like this -

I'm kidding....(edit - I just noticed that I've made an older Hayden look like Dexter Morgan from 'Dexter', lol).

I’m gonna be a father! - ETA December 24th 2017