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Sorceror said:
But my banana is incomplete!
Though, as it was raised...
Hey hey hey, this is a family-friendly website!
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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 320
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The site I have been pointed to contains 5 links for DVD, 2 of those are PAL. Both PAL-links have the same link to a single-layer-DVD, called PAL_SL_DVD despite the fact that one should be PAL_DL_DVD for double layer.
Someone pointed out I shall try to load that container. I did. Instead of PAL it included NTSC-files - the file size I mentioned. The NTSC-file size is identical to the file available in torrent. NTSC-file is 100% complete in torrent. No problem.
Torrent also has a PAL-file (this is where I got the file size from). I tried that file but it is incomplete within torrent (69%). Despite the fact it is incomplete within torrent the file-dimensions of that PAL-file are already written on the HDD (this is where I got the file size from!). It is incomplete and unavailable anywhere else. That's the problem I'm talking about.
I never argued that the NTSC-file and the PAL-file had to be identical. Never.
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Obi-Wan said:
The site I have been pointed to contains 5 links for DVD, 2 of those are PAL. Both PAL-links have the same link to a single-layer-DVD, called PAL_SL_DVD despite the fact that one should be PAL_DL_DVD for double layer.
Assume the site you are talking about is fanedit.info (it's OK, you can mention it) then check their FAQ:
what do I do if a link is not working or somethign (sic) else is wrong?
write a REPORT about it .
Out of interest, why are you so eager to get the PAL version? The NTSC disc has the same content and should work on the majority of PAL players.
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Moth3r said:
Out of interest, why are you so eager to get the PAL version? The NTSC disc has the same content and should work on the majority of PAL players.
I was equally eager when I was hunting down the PAL DVD-9. The NTSC was made from the PAL, so the PAL has better picture quality. I would imagine Obi-Wan has similar reasons.
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Doesn't Adywan deserve a page on Wookieepedia for his work on the Revisited saga? The Phantom Edit also has it's own page!
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I was equally eager when I was hunting down the PAL DVD-9. The NTSC was made from the PAL, so the PAL has better picture quality. I would imagine Obi-Wan has similar reasons.
PAL is inherently better quality in any case - 20% more pixels and no pulldown.
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Is there any way to play PAL movies on a PS3? I know it still has the issue of region codes too, but just asking...
and then there is this:
this is region and code free. Also, there is apparently an "american" model available on amazon here.
Here is something else I found you all may be interested in:
Again, here is the amazon link.
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Moth3r said:
Assume the site you are talking about is fanedit.info (it's OK, you can mention it) then check their FAQ:
what do I do if a link is not working or somethign (sic) else is wrong?
write a REPORT about it .
From faneditforum.com
The link for Adywan's ANH Revisited PAL DL DVD points to a PAL SL DVD. This has been mentioned a few times on a Star Wars website of our acquaintance...
Response - corrected. also added corrected torrent links
There is also an unconfirmed report that one of the PAL links contains NTSC files...
Response - ...uploaded this to RS.....its 100% PAL
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I didn't get that at first either. I did eventually find a site that contained Rapidshare links to the dual layer PAL image and they worked flawlessly.
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Darth Editous said:
I was equally eager when I was hunting down the PAL DVD-9. The NTSC was made from the PAL, so the PAL has better picture quality. I would imagine Obi-Wan has similar reasons.
PAL is inherently better quality in any case - 20% more pixels and no pulldown.
DE
Yes; I know. ;-)
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Is there any way to play PAL movies on a PS3? I know it still has the issue of region codes too, but just asking...
I can't imagine US PS3s wouldn't be able to play PAL. The only issue might be your TV, but I would imagine you won't have any problems.
Regon codes are usually only put on commercial releases. I cannot imagine that Adywan put them on his releases - it's almost unthinkable - so you should be able to play the PAL ANH:R.
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Sorry, I didn't want to sound rude in any way. I was just exhausted from new year's day and the fact that I containered all 80 files for three days with no effort. I already did report the misleading information within the links on that fan-site.
I already burned a NTSC-DVD-9 but wasn't happy and couldn't access all features as I recall (might be down to hardware). But PAL also has a higher framerate than NTSC so I would like to compare both DVDs to each other.
In torrent it is 69% complete and I had the last successful data-run a couple of weeks(!) ago. It has stalled but already displays the size of the full image so I could report it here in case someone is misleaded or wants to enter it as a torrent. However I inspect the site now and have a look at the changes you mentioned. Thanks for your help and a happy new year!
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PAL-DVD-9-links from website works fine now. The torrent-links works fine as well but appeared at bay in December while I started the link I found on 4th of November. I must have gotten a dead end torrent with two peers only while the one from Dec. has more than 100. :)
I wonder about the fact that the iso-files of the two torrents were identical with the difference that the newer one also includes 3 pics. So the torrent-code must be a different one. I started a rat race between container and torrent. Let's see.
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Obi-Wan said:
Sorry, I didn't want to sound rude in any way.
You didn't as far as I am concerned. :-) I hope you have better luck with what I last sent you. PM me whenever you like if you have problems, and I'll try to help.
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The only issue might be your TV, but I would imagine you won't have any problems.
That's what I thought, but someone over at doom9 told me we are still in the ridiculous situation of TVs made for the European market being able to take NTSC input, but most American TVs won't take PAL. YMMV.
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Darth Editous said:
The only issue might be your TV, but I would imagine you won't have any problems.
That's what I thought, but someone over at doom9 told me we are still in the ridiculous situation of TVs made for the European market being able to take NTSC input, but most American TVs won't take PAL. YMMV.
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Really? Gosh! I thought there had been progress on this issue in the American market over the last couple of years. I'm amazed to hear the situation is still as bad as it ever was. Crazy! Thanks for the update. :-)
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Well, my "All Six Star Wars" in a day party is over, and several friends were introduced to SW:R and all were blown away. One insisted I rewind and rewatch the Obi/Vader duel twice, awed that it no longer looked like 'an old man waving a stick at a man who can't see out of a helmet.'
In fact, I had to give away my Revisited DVD one lady liked it so much.
It was a big hit.
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I'm surprised too, I would of at least expected the US/NTSC regions to get PAL support before vice versa for PAL regions since they're usually ahead when it comes to new technology.
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US TV's being able to play PAL will happen when they figure out how to make money off of it beyond just charging more for the sets themselves.
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It's only to avoid imports - we're stuck with supporting the shitty domestic releases whenever you guys get the better end of the deal (which, admittedly, we end up with more often).
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Even if TVs don't have support for the other format, thank god for region free DVD players because it gives you an option to watch any DVD in PAL or NTSC. The only downside is if you watch it on the opposite format (NTSC DVD set to PAL), the frame rate is limited. For instance, a TV series that runs at full 60fps will only play at 25, same with PAL on NTSC at 30.
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Obi-Wan said:
PAL also has a higher framerate than NTSC
No it doesn't. PAL is (usually) 50Hz (25 fps + interlacing), whereas NTSC is closer to (but not exactly) 60Hz (30 fps + interlacing). PAL is still a better image though, as there is more resolution and better colour definition (which theoretically wouldn't be true for a 100% digital transmission between DVD player and TV, e.g. DVI or HDMI, but I haven't had the opportunity to try that).
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Even if TVs don't have support for the other format, thank god for region free DVD players because it gives you an option to watch any DVD in PAL or NTSC. The only downside is if you watch it on the opposite format (NTSC DVD set to PAL), the frame rate is limited. For instance, a TV series that runs at full 60fps will only play at 25, same with PAL on NTSC at 30.
That is not the only difference between PAL and NTSC. Most (if not all) region-unlocked DVD players will not attempt to convert between PAL and NTSC depending on what your TV supports; a PAL disc will always output with PAL, and an NTSC disc will always output with NTSC. One device that does convert between the two systems is an unlocked Gamecube, but it can't play DVDs without extreme hardware modifications.
In Australia, where I live, pretty much all TVs are PAL/NTSC compatible. Most even support SECAM. Analogue broadcasts are in PAL, and almost all locally-produced DVDs are published for use with PAL (region 4).
However, even with the compatibility, it doesn't always work well. I have an Australian, region 4 copy of Dilbert, only available in NTSC, which looks absolutely awful. This is probably due to both the difference in colour systems (NTSC has poorer colour definition than PAL) or to an encoding issue with interlacing (which would be exasperated by the difference in resolution along the lines of displaying a 640x480 image on an old 800x600 LCD).
In summary, PAL is better. :)
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For instance, a TV series that runs at full 60fps will only play at 25, same with PAL on NTSC at 30.
Umm... huh? As Sorceror says, there aren't many DVD players which bother with standards conversion any more. I had one years ago, a Samsung, and while it was by no means clever, I'm pretty sure it did maintain the full frame rate (but only by dropping/duplicating fields).
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Really? No wonder because the last time I used a DVD player was about 3 years ago since I either use my DVD Recorder (old model but not concerned) or PS3.
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Oddly enough I'm getting cyclical redundancy checks (on the NTSC DVD9), so it looks like I need to grab it again.
Does anyone have working links to the rapidshare/megaupload versions?
The SOLE file I'm missing is VTS_51_1.VOB (aprox 0.96 gb).
It's the first part of the movie itself, and the stupid "Cyclical Redundancy" error is preventing it from being copied. :(
Anyone help?
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Activated torrent and JDownloader simultaneously. JD finished after 2d 6h while I had to nurse it sometimes. Torrent will need 3d I guess but delivers a more constant data rate while JD has a lot of peaks and waiting time.
What I noticed in torrent regarding the PAL-iso: I have two different torrents containing the iso-file: One did never finish (69%) and contains 3962 pieces while the newer and complete one contains 15849 pieces.
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