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vaderios said:

Kurgan said:

Also, the Executor is a different type of ship than the ISDs. Who says it needs to look the same in profile or whatever? The main point is to see how massive it is in relation to the other ships. They're using a physical model, so why would it be "wrong"?

They Forced 2 different perspectives into one shot. The model is just fine. But from that angle only the artistic liberation/license defines the "correct"

 

-Angel

Kurgan is right. There is no up/down north/south in space. Why couldn't the Executor be at a 30-degree angle compared to the SD's? They're not floating on an ocean, they're in space.

They look like fine pieces of graphic art in their own right savmagoett.

Something like that could be expanded to be a very cool extras disc cover or a poster.

Monroville said:

the other thing that can be done is slim down the brighter underbelly area of the Executor to match the angle and perspective of the surrounding SDs.

Something like this?

That would give it the same kind of 'narrow' aspect that is similar to this shot of when it exits the asteroid field  (apologies for the poor quality, as I couldn't find a better one of this on google) -

....but personally, I reckon the 'Executor's existing 'wider' angle of view still gives a far more impressive, 'larger' look overall for it's first proper reveal, as seen below, so I guess I prefer any 'artistic license' involved here -

....this also happens to be the same kind of 'wider' angle that was used in this nearer Executor shot added to the SE  (it seems this won't be included in 'ESB:R' though, which is a pity, as I liked this particular shot, especially if the 'Executor' element had been 'colour-corrected'.  Who knows, perhaps Adywan may re-use these elements somewhere else eventually?....)

....and while we're on the subject of 'Executor' shots....I don't remember this being mentioned, but am I the only one that always finds this shot below a little unconvincing?  I don't know if it's a 'lighting' thing or just me, but rather than seeing a 'distant Executor' beyond the Stardestroyer nearest to us, I always see a massively 'out-of-scale' Stardestroyer travelling just beside it, lol!  With all the potentially great angles that the epic-sized 'Executor' could have been filmed from, I just find it looking kind of diminished in this 'forced perspective' shot of it.  Perhaps if the top of the nearest Stardestroyer had been passing much closer to us in the frame, or something like that, it would have sold the 'Executor' as being in the 'distance' a little better than the way it turned out.  It could just be me though.... (I've included 2 shots to give an idea of the movement in the shot) -

 It's a nice mock-up, but should the damage just be a bunch of scratches? They're seems to be alot, and scorch marks might look better

 Also, I always found it really weird how the engines are glowing so brightly in a few shots. I always thought it looked really ugly.

Ganamae said:

 

 An entire large-size Wampa costume was made for the film, however difficulties with the costume caused many of the scenes and all the fully-body shots to be eliminated from the film.

 

.....Adywan soon discovered from his early efforts that it's not so easy to create a convincingly scary 'Wampa' after all....

vaderios said:

....this also happens to be the same kind of 'wider' angle that was used in this nearer Executor shot added to the SE  (it seems this won't be included in 'ESB:R' though, which is a pity, as I liked this particular shot, especially if the 'Executor' element had been 'colour-corrected'.  Who knows, perhaps Adywan may re-use these elements somewhere else eventually?....)

If you look closely that shot (better in HD)

You will notice that its just a cheap 2d element that has even bad cutout and antialiasing. ILM at its best

Ady has color correct it again to match the previous shots in the AVCHD.

 

Sure, I know that the SE 'Executor' shot seems to be a 're-use' of sorts although it's nicely 'framed' a little differently, and I guess I just like the 'size' that the 'wider' underbelly angle gives to it.

And thanks for showing the proper colouration.  Looks great.

By the way, I've come across another couple of easily missed 'wrong-way-round' shots to do with 'Hoth' that I don't recall ever seeing flagged up, and have never noticed before!  Thankfully, they can be easily re-'flipped' for 'consistency' and the 'flow of action' and the look of things won't be adversely affected in any way.  :)

I'll cover them along with the 'Dagobah' one I recently came across (which can be re-'flipped' with no problems too), when I can organise the screenshots to show things properly.

After initially being uncertain about the 'flipped' shots in 'ANH:Revisited', I soon grew appreciative of them, and am looking forward to the 'continuity' that the ones in 'ESB:R' will give.

look at the empire at war expansion version of the Executor. that's gives a good idea of the size.

vaderios said:

We can always have a bigger Executor reveal lol. Going back and back until its full on frame :) showing more fleet too.(exiting from hyperspace?)

I'm sure a lot of things are possible vaderios, but I just don't know if Adywan will want to show them.

vaderios said:

Artistic License? XD

Well everything comes down to that and personal tastes of course, and I'm interested to see how much or how little Adywan will end up altering those initial 'Executor' reveal shots.

But apart from the positioning of the Stardestroyer underneath it, I always thought the eventual 'long shot' of the 'Executor' worked well.

Thankfully, they can be easily re-'flipped' for 'consistency' and the 'flow of action' and the look of things won't be adversely affected in any way.  :)

Obviously it depends on the shot you're talking about, but the probable reason they've been flipped in the first place is that someone back in 1980 felt there was good reason to do so. It would have to be a big goof to persuade me to flip a shot (I think I did it once for ANH, and I wish I hadn't), and then only after I'd exhausted other avenues.

DE