Well from what ive been readin of the elders they were apparently a lizard type of race, this could be tweaked to make them neimodians. Just workin on the script of the underwater city.
INT. OTOH GUNGA - HIGH TOWER BOARD ROOM
The Bosses' Board Room has bubble walls, with small lighted fish swimming
around outside like moving stars. A long circular judge's bench filled with
GUNGAN OFFICIALS dominates the room. OBI-WAN and QUI-GON stand facing BOSS
NASS, who sits on a bench higher than the others.
BOSS NASS : What do you want outlanders! Why are you human bothering us! Our gods have returned to us and now you arrive.
QUI-GON : That droid army is about to attack the Naboo. We must warn them.
BOSS NASS : We hate the Naboo, they stole everything from us, they took our land and treasures, we owe them nothing but destruction.
OBI-WAN : After those droids take control of the surface, they will come
here and take control of you.
BOSS NASS : We are safe from the shiny creatures down here, they have come for the human not us Gungans.
OBI-WAN : You and the Naboo form a symbiont circle. What happens to one of
you will affect the other. You must understand this.
BOSS NASS : The Gods have sent these shiny creatures to destroy the Naboo, not us and to help us restore our lost land.
QUI-GON : (waves his hand) Then speed us on our way.
BOSS NASS : You are free to leave and don't return.
QUI-GON : We need a transport.
BOSS NASS : You may take the Bongo!
QUI-GON : Thank you for your help. We go in peace.
QUI-GON and OBI-WAN turn to leave.
OBI-WAN : Master, whats a bongo?
QUI-GON : A transport, I hope.
The JEDI notice JAR JAR in chains to one side, waiting to hear his verdict.
QUI-GON stops. JAR JAR gives him a forlorn look.
JAR JAR : I hope you suceed in your task.
QUI-GON : Thank you, my friend.
JAR JAR : Ahhh...any help here would be hot.
JAR JAR's soulful look is counterpointed by a sheepish grin.
OBI-WAN : We are short of time, Master.
QUI-GON : We'll need a navigator to get us through the planet's core. This
Gungan my be of help.
QUI-GON walks bact to BOSS NASS.
QUI-GON : (cont'd) What is to become of Jar Jar Binks here?
BOSS NASS : He was banished, but he returned and now he will be punished.
QUI-GON : He has been a great help to us. I hope the punishment will not be
too severe.
BOSS NASS : He will be judged and the Gods will decide.
JAR JAR : (grimacing) Oooooh...
OBI-WAN looks concerned. QUI-GON is thinking.
QUI-GON : I have saved Jar Jar Binks' life. He owes me what you call a "life debt."
BOSS NASS : This human 'saved' you?!
JAR JAR nods and joins the JEDI. QUI-GON waves his hand.
QUI-GON : Your gods demand that his life belongs to me now.
BOSS NASS : Then take him, I never want to see his face agen!
JAR JAR : Thank god im out of here, what am i saying, I'm headed through the planet core!
Sounds good DuTwan! Hopefully the lips and timing would match. Wish we could get BRIAN BLESSED to redo the voice. ;-)
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I wonder if there are any of his I Claudius lines that can replace the worst aspects of that performance?
If not it may be necessary to start from scratch.
Slumberland's take was more restrained but the vocal ticks are so deep in the performance that they can't be removed entirely without leaving gaps.
I hope the redubbing efforts go better here.
Good DutWan.
Still i d love less mentions to gods. Make star wars less with human elements as well.
:)
-Angel
Ithilgore said:
shanerjedi said:
Bingowings said:
mrbenja0618 said:
Interesting... Any ideas on how to make that happen?
Redubbing the dialogue and altering the statues in the Gungan sacred place would do the trick :
The miniature and digimatte work in TPM was the best of the PT. There was some other great stuff in the other films but TPM was most consistent.
That first picture looks a bit bad, though, Anakin doesn't look convincing at all. Easily fixable, though, I'm sure.
That maybe because it's actually Jake Lloyd. That's not an effect.
vaderios said:
Good DutWan.
Still i d love less mentions to gods. Make star wars less with human elements as well.
:)
-Angel
I recommend they not be called "Gods" at all. Just call them The Elders if anything.
Or "the old ones". Lovecraftian in name anyway if not depiction.
shanerjedi said:
Bingowings said:
mrbenja0618 said:
Interesting... Any ideas on how to make that happen?
Redubbing the dialogue and altering the statues in the Gungan sacred place would do the trick :
The miniature and digimatte work in TPM was the best of the PT. There was some other great stuff in the other films but TPM was most consistent.
bottom left pic the statue in the background looks like cad bane
John Williams score to Return of the Jedi Remastered/Remixed:
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Good call :D
fishmanlee said:
bottom left pic the statue in the background looks like cad bane
Could someone explain "cad bane" to me?
Oh yeah, the CGI Clone Wars gun-for-hire guy, the species are supposed to be related (according to the EU anyway).
Reminds me of Chakan: The Forever Man:
(who in turn reminds me of both the Duros in Star Wars and Eddie, the Iron Maiden mascot.)
Ahh, the Sega Genesis, good times. I almost didn't graduate college 'cause of that thing.
Alrite guys just gonna rewrite all of Jar Jar's lines in key scenes he is in. Second lot of rewriting i will do is when Jar Jar meets Qui Gon and Obi Wan for the first time.
Sorry its so damn long!
EXT. NABOO SWAMP - TWILIGHT
QUI-GON runs through the strange landscape, glancing back to see the
monstrous troop transports, emerging from the mist. Animals begin to run
past him in a panic.
An odd, frog-like Gungan, JAR JAR INKS, squats holding a clam he has
retrieved from the murky swamp. The shell pops open. JAR JAR's greta tongue
snaps out and grabs the clam, swallowing it in one gulp.
JAR JAR looks up and sees QUI-GON and the other creatures running like the
wind toward him. One of the huge MTT's bears down on the JEDI like a
charging locomotive. JAR JAR stands transfixed, still holding the clam shell
in one hand.
JAR JAR : What the...!
JAR JAR drops the shell and grabs onto QUI-GON as he passes. The JEDI is
caught by surprise.
JAR JAR : (Cont'd) Hey, help me! Help me!!
QUI-GON : Let go!
The machine is about tp crush them as QUI-GON drags JAR JAR behind him. Just
as the transport is about to hit them, QUI-GON drops, and JAR JAR goes splat
into the mud with him. The transport races overhead.
QUI-GON and JAR JAR pull themselves out of the mud. They stand watching the
war machine dissapear into the mist.
JAR JAR : I'm alive, what...was...that!
QUI-GON : Are you brainless? You almost got us killed!
JAR JAR : I can speak!
QUI-GON : The ability to speak does not make you intelligent. Now get outta
here!
QUI-GON starts to move off, and JAR JAR follows.
JAR JAR : No...no! I will stay. I'm your humble servant.
QUI-GON : That wont be necessary.
JAR JAR : Oh but it is! It was decided by the Gods. A live debt, it is. I am Jar Jar Binks.
In the distance, two STAPS burst out of the mist at high speed, chasing
OBI-WAN.
QUI-GON : We have no time for this now...
JAR JAR : Say what?
The two STAPS barrell down on OBI-WAN.
JAR JAR : (cont'd) Oh, nooooo! More of them.....
QUI-GON throws JAR JAR into the mud.
QUI-GON : Stay down!
His head pops up.
JAR JAR : ...argh!
The two troops fire laser bolts at OBI-WAN. QUI-GON deflects the bolts back,
and the STAPS blow up. One-two. OBI-WAN is exhausted and tries to catch his
breath.
JAR JAR pulls himself out of the mud.
JAR JAR : You saved me again
OBI-WAN : What's this?
QUI-GON : A local. Let's go, before more of those droids show up.
JAR JAR : More? More did you say?
OBI-WAN and QUI-GON start to run. JAR JAR tries to keep up.
JAR JAR : (cont'd) ermm excuse me, but the most safe place would be
Otoh Gunga. It's where I grew up...it is hidden city.
They all stop.
QUI-GON : A city! (JAR JAR nods his head) Can you take us there?
JAR JAR : Ahhh, me take you? Not really no.
QUI-GON : No??!
JAR JAR : Its embarrissing, but... I'm afraid I was banished. I
forgot Boss Nass would do terrible things to me. Terrible things if I go
back there.
A PULSATING SOUND is heard in the distance.
QUI-GON : You hear that?
JAR JAR: Yes....
QUI-GON : (cont'd) That's the sound of a thousand terrible things heading
this way...
OBI-WAN : When they find us, they will crush us, grind us into little
pieces, then blast us into oblivion!
JAR JAR : Oh! Thousand? This way! Hurry!
JAR JAR turns and runs into the swamp.
EXT. NABOO SWAMP LAKE - TWILIGHT
QUI-GON, OBI-WAN and JAR JAR run into a murky lake and stop as JAR JAR tries
to catch his breath. The TRANSPORTS ARE HEARD in the distance.
QUI-GON : Much farther?
JAR JAR : The city is underwater, okay?
QUI-GON and OBI-WAN pull out small capsule from their utility belts that
turn into breathing masks.
JAR JAR : (cont'd) I'm warning you. Gungans hate outlaunders. Don't
expect a warm welcome.
OBI-WAN : Don't worry, this has not been our day for warm welcomes.
JAR JAR jumps, does a double somersault with a twist, and dives into the
water.
Breath masks on, QUI-GON and OBI-WAN wade in after him.
INT. SUB COCKPIT - UNDERWATER
JAR JAR in the co-pilots seat, QUI GON guides the craft.
JAR JAR : This is useless.
OBI-WAN : Master, why do you keep dragging these pathetic life forms along
with us?
JAR JAR : Hey? Which was you getting there?
QUI-GON : You're the navigator.
JAR JAR : Not a very good one.
QUI-GON : Just relax, the Force will
guide us...
JAR JAR : Ooooh, I've heard of "The Force"...Nothing can be grander than the Elders.
OBI-WAN : Why were you banished, Jar Jar?
JAR JAR : It's a long story but to shorten it down it was because I fell onto Boss Nass' wife .
OBI-WAN : They banished you because you're clumsy?
As the little sub glides into the planet core, a large dark shape begins to
follow.
JAR JAR :Also I caused maybe one or two extra little accidents...used to be his chauffeur, until I crash the Bosses Bongo...then banished.
Suddenly there is a loud CRASH, and the little craft lurches to one side.
QUI-GON looks around and sees a huge, lumimnous OPEE SEA KILLER has hooked
them with its long gooey tongue.
QUI-GON : Full speed ahead.
JAR JAR: Oh no!
As the sub zooms away they see a larger set of jaws, munching on the hapless
KILLER. The jaws belong to the incredible SANDO AQUA MONSTER. The lights on
the tiny sub begin to flicker as they cruise deeper into the gloom.
QUI-GON : There's always a bigger fish.
*
Thats all for now guys. dont wanna fill the board with pages of script lmao
So you changed it so he doesn't have a stupid accent. There's not enough change there to warrant posting the whole thing really if you're just going to correct his grammar...
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doubleofive said:
So you changed it so he doesn't have a stupid accent. There's not enough change there to warrant posting the whole thing really if you're just going to correct his grammar...
In that scene unfortunately it didnt need much changing which i realised half way through, much of that script as been cut due to Jar Jar originally pilotting and Obi Wan taking over. I have changed the reason why Jar Jar was banished because the explanation in the film was not even an explanation, it was some about a boom da gasser and crashen the bosses heyblebber or something like that, but as you have already said i have lost the accent, hopefully to be redubbed in an alien language and used as subtitles or in just english.
DuTwan why not just get a copy of mangoliafans edit of TPM? Binks has a alien language and subtitles in that.
It does turn the film into a video illustrated short story though, I've got nothing against subtitles on non-English language movies when there's no action but films like Star Wars shouldn't be overly subtitled, otherwise you can't see the worlds for the reading.
The language wasn't very alien either, it was just jumbled up.
I loved the dialogue in the subtitles though.
Shanerjedi i have indeed seen Mangoliafans edit of TPM and wasnt happy with the portrail of Jar Jar in that film, his adult themed comedy and i believe some swearing? wasnt very star wars to me at all and thought it quite ruined the watchablilty of it. Almost like Transformers with the mom askin the main character if he was masturbating in his room. I just thought it was totally unneeded in the film. I personally wouldnt like to see half the film in subtitles either but this is purely an idea i wanted to do and maybe for ppl like Mangoliafan to consider.
Off topic but i really have this desire to rewrite the prequels just for fun, based on the ideas of ppl on here and my own thoughts lol
Bingowings said:
I've got nothing against subtitles on non-English language movies when there's no action but films like Star Wars shouldn't be overly subtitled, otherwise you can't see the worlds for the reading.
The whole idea that you can't follow the action while reading is ludicrous. Tell Quentin Tarantino that, who subtitled half (at least) of his latest film. Or, you could just tell it to George Lucas, who subtitled one of the defining moments of Star Wars (Han shoots Greedo).
The dumbing down of the prequels - i.e. everybody speaks English dialects - is one of the most annoying things for me. I think Magnoliafan was right to just change it to an alien language. One of the cool things about the original Star Wars trilogy was how people understood several languages, with or without droid help. Whereas in the PT they only need to understand bad accents.
Other thing that happens there, of course, is that C-3PO has nothing to do plotwise and ends up a waste of screen.
DarthBo:Bingowings said:
I've got nothing against subtitles on non-English language movies when there's no action but films like Star Wars shouldn't be overly subtitled, otherwise you can't see the worlds for the reading.
How do you think people who don't come from english-speaking countries watch Star Wars?
Yes, with subtitles.
We learned to read fast you see.
I agree with Darth Bo and theslime, subtitles are no problem whatsoever for most people with the ability to read. And it's not as if action scenes have so much dialogue anyway, so that's very rarely an issue.
While it's possibly the poorest film in the series, Star Trek V (and VI to some extent) does do alien languages really well. Whenever members of a species are seen talking among themselves, they speak their own language and we read the translation. I think that's much, much smarter, classier even.
Also, I'm not a big Lord of the Rings fan and haven't seen the films since they came out, but wasn't there loads of subtitled Elvish-speaking in there? Didn't stop a gazillion viewers from enjoying it like nobody's business. Why should Star Wars viewers be any dumber?
