The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 104

the hand is connected to arm.... Am I correct? =/

Adywan lost a hand in the cantina scene.

doubleofive said:

TV's Frink said:

Adywan lost a hand in the cantina scene.

Does the faneditor count as a named character? LOL

If the character is not named, who is to say he wasn't named Adywan?  :-)

And fish, in what point of view is the hand *not* connected to the arm?

If you lose an arm you lose a hand (unless you are stuck in a magician's cabinet and he knows what he's doing).

Maybe these are the grand armies of the Republic Palpatine was talking about (ta'dum'pish!).

The time wipe from republic to imperial era is a great one. Great mock ups. I love the Tie Fighter leading the wipe too.

Cheers Shaner, I thought that it was in-keeping with the classic serials.

I would like to see Padme die on Alderaan when Leia is about three too.

Bingowings said:

I would like to see Padme die on Alderaan when Leia is about three too.

I think it's far more in preserving the impact of the OT if we never find out that Padme is pregnant (we can deduce that she must have been for ourselves when ESB comes), she never gives birth on screen and that her fate after being force choked by Anakin is a mystery (other than the fact she survives - for how long who knows, but long enough for Leia to remember her)

If we see her pregnant and give birth to a little girl that would throw the whole Luke thing back into the dark it might get people twigging early about Leia but the kissing thing could actually work in the favour of the story.

I guess so, but how can you justify cutting from the scene when she's about to pop another one out? Lol.

I'd say there's a difference between things that most of the characters aren't privvy to (which would be the case if she gave birth after the events of the film) and the director (or in this case, the editor) deliberately keeping the viewer out of the loop, whilst every character involved would allegedly know she gave birth to twins.

Hard to explain...it breaks immersion that way by consciously keeping things from the viewer, rather than the birth of the son being a secret 'in-universe'.

Not sure I've explained myself very well there. *I* understand it anyway :p

I want Natalie Portman to look more pregnant in ROTS.  Would keep my wife from complaining LOL.

brash_stryker said:

I guess so, but how can you justify cutting from the scene when she's about to pop another one out? Lol.

I'd say there's a difference between things that most of the characters aren't privvy to (which would be the case if she gave birth after the events of the film) and the director (or in this case, the editor) deliberately keeping the viewer out of the loop, whilst every character involved would allegedly know she gave birth to twins.

Hard to explain...it breaks immersion that way by consciously keeping things from the viewer, rather than the birth of the son being a secret 'in-universe'.

Not sure I've explained myself very well there. *I* understand it anyway :p

You've explained yourself very well indeed.

In fact I'm sold on the idea.

I still think it would be better to see Padme die on Alderaan many years after the rise of the Empire and if a little girl happens to be there do we have to know she's her biological daughter?

Bingowings said:

I still think it would be better to see Padme die on Alderaan many years after the rise of the Empire and if a little girl happens to be there do we have to know she's her biological daughter?

 

I think this could be done in a montage of the Empire growing in power (featuring your excellent idea of the tie wipe) along with the consequences (people, including Padme, suffering and dying).  That way, it can parallel the Empire falling/celebrations montage in ROTJ.

Also, in regard to the Tie wipe. Doesn't a t-16 skyhopper serve as a sort of wipe in the ROTJ montage? If it does, your tie idea is even more perfect than I thought!

Edit: Just checked on the dvd. Unfortunately, the wings of the T-16 don't actually instigate the wipe. It's still a good parellel nevertheless though :)

HOWEVER. A Moisture vaporator/tower type thing in Mos Eisley does.

Yeah. I'm officially sold. Your Tie Wipe is a must :D

Edit AGAIN: Just saw that you mentioned this bookending of montages yourself a couple of pages back when you first mentioned the Star Destroyer transition. Sorry to steal your thunder :P

So any ideas on how to fix the Anakin/Vader mess?

Regardless of any edits that can be done, or the parallels between Vader and Grevious, we see Anakin turn to the dark side. This can't be changed short of reshooting the film. So this means Obi Wan's description of Vader in ANH "a pupil of mine until he turned to evil" is automatically going to make us think of Anakin.

The only way this can possibly be fixed (I believe I have explored every possible avenue) is to somehow make it so that Obi Wan's description of Luke's father - the great pilot, the cunning warrior, his good friend, could possibly be attributable to someone other than anakin.

Of course, we find out in ESB that Darth Vader and Anakin (Skywalker) are one and the same, but at least it's a surprise if we suspect Luke's father was someone else Obi Wan knew, and not Anakin.

This is the area in which Lucas has completely fucked us over more than any other.

I've been thinking, maybe ROTS needs a rewrite of the crawl... I'm not yet sure what it should be, but I'm working on it now.

It is a grim time for the GALACTIC REPUBLIC.

Fighting on all fronts of the Clone Wars

has escalated, Jedi now lead the Republic’s

front line. As turmoil continues to spread through

the galaxy, a grim stalemate is evolving.

Now, the nefarious General Grievous has plucked

the Supreme Chancellor from the capital, and fled.

As the droid army moves in, for a large scale battle,

two Jedi have been charged with the desperate mission

to retrieve the captive Chancellor....

And so, we see the Clone Wars have unfolded in the time between AOTC and ROTS. I'll have the crawl actually done tomorrow sometime.

It sounds like it should be read in a Yorkshire accent.

Star Wars the Ken Loach version.

"I killed them. They're dead, every single one of them an' not just the men, but the women and the kids pets an' all"