Info & Ideas: ESB and ROTJ Wishlist — Page 133

well i guess its better than the original concept of the underground lava room. i mean he was really asking for trouble there.

We are safe from your friends here:

haha! genius.

haha!

Is there a workable solution, like a suitable backshot of the ROTJ helmet that can be matched into position and have the general profile of the reflections mapped over it?

Some might say with some justification that it doesn't really matter but it does highlight how many corners were cut in the making of ROTJ.

Would it have cost so much to film anyone against the window for a unique shot?

It would be nice if we had a similar shot of Luke meditating on the future like he does in ANH.

The PT sets this up as a family trait but maybe Yoda's teaching has beaten it out of Luke.

If not it might be nice to start a Fan-O-Matic style Dagobah sequence with Luke outside looking up at the sky and then over to Yoda's hut before him going inside for Yoda's death scene (which might be adapted from the lights fading sequence in the theatrical version).

I just noticed thanks to SSWR's post that in my earlier comment I said:

before going outside for Yoda's death scene

Clearly I meant inside...Doh!

Will Adywan edit the Prequel Trilogy?

Will we see Qui-Gon anywhere?  I'd like to see his ghost somewhere.  Mabey him looking on at Vader and knowing he created trained him.  That would be better for the end of ROTS rather than somewhere in the OT, but oh well.

As for ROTJ, it needs to be cut down alot.  Alot of the Jabba's Palace sequences are boring and very useless.  Why not cut out some of it and make up the time with a better space battle and more battle scenes. 

I don't even want to talk about how bad the Sail Barge batttle is.

The picture of Jabba's Palace picture 2 pages back looks nice and more realistic than the 2004 DVD.  Great work on it.

Ghost said:

Will Adywan edit the Prequel Trilogy?

Will we see Qui-Gon anywhere?  I'd like to see his ghost somewhere.  Mabey him looking on at Vader and knowing he created trained him.  That would be better for the end of ROTS rather than somewhere in the OT, but oh well.

As for ROTJ, it needs to be cut down alot.  Alot of the Jabba's Palace sequences are boring and very useless.  Why not cut out some of it and make up the time with a better space battle and more battle scenes.

I don't even want to talk about how bad the Sail Barge batttle is.

The picture of Jabba's Palace picture 2 pages back looks nice and more realistic than the 2004 DVD.  Great work on it.

 

This and the prequel redux thread aren't exclusively Ady related threads so even if you have an idea that Ady has already said won't happen in his versions still feel free to discuss it because someone else might want the use of your ideas.

I'm not sure if Jabba's Palace needs less screen time it definately needs a change of tone.

The cartoon puppet aliens, droid torture played for laughs and CGI musical number detract from the necessary sense of threat making it more comical than perilous.

It should be a different kind of danger than the Empire (more louche and grotesque) but it should be still a place where the potential for nasty things to happen to our heroes is tangible.

You don't really get that in any versions of those sequences.

Vaderios said :

As you can see: Surface, and missing set exteriors from that poor set piece.

ideas brainstorming all welcome.

-Angel

As I said over on the previous page I don't get the what the exposed death pits are doing in this room, it's simply daft.

 I'd get rid or alter the rails and cover the pit up with floor plates.

During the fight those plates could be dislodged so the pit is exposed for Palpatine to get chucked down later (or maybe while he's watching Palpatine zapping Luke, Vader's anger causes him to have a relapse of his post Padme room wrecking).

I don't think there's any problem with the shaft being there. It's a shaft down to the reactor core if I remember rightly. It's exactly the kind of thing I can imagine Palpatine doing - wanting to be able to look down at the awesome power of his creation. Of course, as Luke says, his overconfidence is his weakness, and it ends up being his undoing.

"as Luke says, his overconfidence is his weakness, and it ends up being his undoing."

Convenient, that. Yet another problem with the writing on Jedi.

I don't really see how that in particular is a weakness in the writing. It shows that Luke has become a very perceptive, powerful Jedi. The Emperor is arrogant enough to think his apprentice won't turn against him, which of course turns out to not be true.

I see it as far more silly that there'd be a shaft there which clearly has no purpose (it certainly wouldn't be there for aesthetic reasons if it were covered with floor plates)

Can't see it as being for venting anything either. Why would the emperor choose to have it vent under his own chamber floor?

The only reason I can see for the shaft to be there is for the Emperor's own arrogant observations. Those on the dark side clearly value power above all else. Having a view into the reactor from his own chamber is exactly the kind of thing he'd do in my opinion.

So it's not for gobbing on people heads then or putting the dropping a penny on people to the test.