The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 102

fishmanlee, was that your Geonosis work where you made it look like a night shot?

Sometimes subtle things like that can make so much difference.

that would make a bit more sence assuming he isnt wearing asbestos gloves

Been away from these boards for a while due to problems with my computer.

Going back to the topic of lightsaber colours (don't shoot me) I think the only Jedi in the PT that should possibly have Green is Qui Gon. He was always portrayed as a Maverick who is at odds with the council, and it just seems like the kind of thing he'd do.

Dooku's should be blue. The mere fact that he's fighting his own shows he's renegade. We don't need a new colour to show that.

Does anyone else think that perhaps Grievous should have some Vader-esque breathing, in an edit where Vader's identity is less obvious? What I mean is, where he coughs, he should take Vader breaths, and then when Anakin gets left on Mustafar, we don't see Palpers comingand helping him, we just see Vader being built, leaving it ambiguous as to whether Grievous or Anakin is Vader. To aid this perhaps also have Obi-Wan say something along the lines of, "You were my first apprentice." to Grievous, during their duel, so as to leave the ANH talking about Vader, seem more like Obi-wan is ashamed for killing Anakin.

Maybe he could have a Vader shaped head (that might add ambiguity to Vader's actual identity):

I was thinking more along the lines of giving that head to Grievous and have him fall off the platform to an uncertain end.

Crude but you get the idea:

That way Vader could be Anakin or Grievous.

This one is nice too

I actually like Grievous now with that head

vaderios said:

GL stated that he grievous should NOT look like vader.

Plus what you propose is near impossible to be done.

 

-Angel

That's part of the problem. The PT is exactly what George wants as it is.

As for changing it sure it would be very, very difficult but I imagine not impossible.

Grievous is a model (a CGI model but a model none the less).

Some of the shots of Christopher Lee mapped over his stunt double were pulled off well (not all sadly) and that was one human head on the body of another.

The mask I linked to will soon be available to buy, film and scan and it's a model that can be mapped onto another model, surely easier to pull off than mapping a human head onto another human body.

The handling of the Vader's identity was really buggered up by Lucas so throwing in a bit of ambiguity serves the story better.

If I had my own way Grievous would look almost exactly like Vader so when Vader turns up in ANH first time viewers would just assume he was brought into the Empire as part of the peace process.

It seemed daft to me that Lucas wrote in a cyborg general and didn't try to pull something like that off.

The thread is for ideas of a radical nature if someone can figure out the how, the idea is there for them to use, if not it's just a few lines in a thread with some equally difficult notions to realise.

Surely matching up a physical model with existing footage is just as hard for a adding a head in motion as it is for adding a CGI creature or a physical model of vehicle like a Walker to footage in motion.

At least the mask is as artificial as the model already is.

We are talking a lot of hard work but for such a pay off if someone is willing and dedicated enough to pull it off.

I think the PT needs to be set up to mirror the OT, if that makes sense. In Episode 1, we should see a scenario similar to ANH, Clones should see the shit hit the fan, akin to ESB, and Revenge should see something similar to Jedi, if the Emperor had won.

tehwallaby said:

I think the PT needs to be set up to mirror the OT, if that makes sense. In Episode 1, we should see a scenario similar to ANH, Clones should see the shit hit the fan, akin to ESB, and Revenge should see something similar to Jedi, if the Emperor had won.

Actually, that could be pretty cool for ROTS and ROTJ. Sort of like, you watch Episode 3, and think the good guys will win, but it all goes to hell unexpectantly, and that trilogy ends on a bad note. Then at the end of the next trilogy, the same situation has occured, only this time the light side manages to win, after failing once, and we get the happy ending.

I know this is already what we get, but some structure and tone changes to make this sort of an evident theme would be good. ROTS and ROTJ are both in need of a shake-up, anyway (in terms of structure).

I did suggest this some aeons ago...

Bingowings said:

It might be better to show the twins being born and then do a series of time jumps showing the transition between the Republic era ships and Imperial era ships, (perhaps a few battles with the Alliance) the Clonetroopers and the Stormtroopers, have Padme die on Alderaan and see little Leia at her funeral on Alderaan (possibly aged 3 or 4) and finish with the construction of the Death Star with Peter playing Tarkin not Wayne in a Halloween mask.

The transition idea could be very doable you could see a ROTS style Star Destroyer wipe into a ANH/ESB style Destroyer etc, etc and finish with Vader and Palpatine looking at the construction of the Death Star surrounded by Imperial ships showing that it was built closer to the timeframe of ANH than ROTS. (a bit like the end sequence of the Enterprise finale where we saw Enterprises D, NCC1701 and NXwhatever only in reverse http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXotJu1CapU&feature=related).

It would also serve as a bookend for the celebration montage at the end of ROTJ, instead of seeing the defeat of the Empire playing out over space we'd see the growth of the Empire over time.

Forgive the roughness of this mockup as per: