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Ripplin said:
doubleofive said: how freaking big is some of that welding to be seen from this distance from something that big?

If it was out in the open (unobstructed view), I think you could even see the light from a regular little ol' Earth welding torch at that distance because it's so insanely retina-burning bright.

I'd like to see a GIF of that with little lights blinking here and there. Maybe some little dots buzzing around to indicate small robots or ships doing work, too.

Yes, but also think about how MASSIVE DS2 is and how small the Executor is when it crashes into it.  Each of those welds is probably bigger than the Super Star Destroyer!

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What if:

1.Instead of the executor and all the fleet suddenly arrives from nowhere having them jumping out from hyperspace.

2. The rebel fleet is near sullust. Can we see the system/planet on the ship concentration?

3. The death star have a more impressive/extented explosion aka what Darth Venal posted as Alderaan's destruction?

4.


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doubleofive said:
Ripplin said:
doubleofive said: how freaking big is some of that welding to be seen from this distance from something that big?

If it was out in the open (unobstructed view), I think you could even see the light from a regular little ol' Earth welding torch at that distance because it's so insanely retina-burning bright.

I'd like to see a GIF of that with little lights blinking here and there. Maybe some little dots buzzing around to indicate small robots or ships doing work, too.

Yes, but also think about how MASSIVE DS2 is and how small the Executor is when it crashes into it.  Each of those welds is probably bigger than the Super Star Destroyer!

Haha, nice. Well, it is the Empire, after all. They do everything big! :p

 

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vaderios said:

What if:

1.Instead of the executor and all the fleet suddenly arrives from nowhere having them jumping out from hyperspace.

We'd have to change the Emperor's line about moving the "fleet to the far side of the Sanctuary Moon.  There it will stay.... until called for."

2. The rebel fleet is near sullust. Can we see the system/planet on the ship concentration?

I don't see why not.  But they are massing NEAR Sullust, not AT Sullust, so it's not necessary.

3. The death star have a more impressive/extented explosion aka what Darth Venal posted as Alderaan's destruction?

It would be awesome if it fell apart in huge chunks instead of popping.

4.

Very yes.

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@ Ripplin: No of course not. How about anakin as kid? :D

@ 005: Thanks for the info. I was needing this to rethink some images that i have in my head. ;)

 

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vaderios said:

What if:

2. The rebel fleet is near sullust. Can we see the system/planet on the ship concentration?

 

 i would like an establishing shot of this, with loads of ships coming out of hyperspace joining it as mentioned earlier somewhere. the way i imagined the fleet gathering would be like a ginat ring of ships circling a planet, like the malevolence does in the clone wars series. so initially we see a red giant, with plack dots cutting across it in a line.

 

love the lando absence.

 

if were in the spirit of cutting lando.....

 

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What about Cindel Towani?

Nice removal of the studio lights on Threepio's chest (or am I hallucinating?).

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doubleofive said:

Maybe it could be pitch dark and the light is coming from it being reflected off of the Planet Endor?

Id like to see that. Images explain better than my poor English can understand :)

doubleofive said:

Yes, but also think about how MASSIVE DS2 is and how small the Executor is when it crashes into it.  Each of those welds is probably bigger than the Super Star Destroyer!

This is where ROTJ fails to capture the " look at the size of that thing"

in the close ups of executor the DS behind should be unfocused and fill ALL the space.

Plus in the middle of the battle like every time happens in ROTJ the DS is a stencil that stays to the background. How about some shots that the battle is from the POV of some parts of DS (more photographic approach and better cinematography).

 

I just thought that when the shuttle goes down to the endor we have a shot that vader looks outside. It could be good looking if he sees the sunrise and leaves full of thoughts.

 

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Hey, you know what might be a good idea for Endor?

 

Just to set the stage that there's some fierce creatures on the planet. Maybe Han and co. walk upon a burned out hulk of a AT-AT?

They would be like "what the heck did that?".

 

Just an idear.

 

it also fits into bingowings suggestion that there exists a state of war between imperials and ewoks.

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vaderios said:
doubleofive said:

Maybe it could be pitch dark and the light is coming from it being reflected off of the Planet Endor?

Id like to see that. Images explain better than my poor English can understand :)

We should imagine the Planet Endor as our moon, and the Sanctuary Moon as Earth.  If the Planet is only seen over the dark surface of the Moon, you could use the sun reflecting off of the Planet to light scenes when the Moon is dark.  Add glimpses of the Planet Endor in the sky when its dark on the surface and we'd be set!

EDIT: I threw together an idea of what I mean.  You'll have to forgive the crudity of this model, I haven't put any software on this new machine of mine:

Made in Windows 7 Paint. :-)  Not to scale.

Anyway, PE revolves around the sun and the SM's orbit always puts it in the way of the sun, so every night the night is lit by the light reflecting off of PE.  The DS2 is in a geostationary orbit above the shield generator which revolves around from day to night as normal.  If we make PE far enough away from SM, there wouldn't be a huge SM shadow on the surface, and if you make PE a neutral color it would explain the moonlight in the Ewok Village!  Therefore, if the Death Star was on the opposite side of the Sanctuary Moon from the sun, it could be lit from light reflecting off of the Planet Endor.

 

WHEW!

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doubleofive said: Made in Windows 7 Paint. :-)  Not to scale.

Sorry to get off-topics, but my inbox is getting super full again and it's a massive pain deleting one message at a time...

Anyway, my point is, how do you find Windows 7 so far? I only know one guy using it other than you and he's happy with it so far. Said the transition (reinstalling programs and such) was really easy.

 

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Got it 005 ;)

 

Now i had an idea of a more dramatic and dynamic destruction of executor.

Forgive the mess, was done quick

Id like to have executor scratching the surface (ala Star trek nemesis) before explode to pieces, leaving a cool scar to DS's surface.

 

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Keys to the release candidate were available up until last week.  They're good till March, when the system starts shutting down every two hours.  A friend of mine built me a new (to me) machine and since he really didn't have any licenses just threw W7 on it.  I like it, little learning curve, but I haven't used it too much just yet.

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That would mean that the planet would have to be close enough to reflect enough light to illuminate the station.

Which would mean it would also reflect the light onto the moon, meaning that if the Death Star gets a moonlight like effect the sky above the moon would be dominated by a huge silvery orb making a dark night almost impossible until the planet came into eclipse with the moon.

In which case there would be a long period without sunlight and the only light coming from the station would be it's own lights.

This would be great if it was worked out from the beginning, it would make the Forest Moon a really interesting alien place but it would be a real task to work into the currently filmed footage.

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vaderios said:

Got it 005 ;)

 

Now i had an idea of a more dramatic and dynamic destruction of executor.

Forgive the mess, was done quick

Id like to have executor scratching the surface (ala Star trek nemesis) before explode to pieces, leaving a cool scar to DS's surface.

 

-Angel

 

In the ROTJ novelisation, the SSD takes a bunch of fighters, support craft, and star destroyers with it when it crashes.

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vaderios said:

Got it 005 ;)

 

Now i had an idea of a more dramatic and dynamic destruction of executor.

Forgive the mess, was done quick

Id like to have executor scratching the surface (ala Star trek nemesis) before explode to pieces, leaving a cool scar to DS's surface.

 

-Angel

 

 that sort of reminds me of the invisibile hand crash/another happy landing scene

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If you go for the Piett Defection scenerio or not it would still be more visually interesting to have the Executor crash into the incomplete side of a/the Death Star.

Imagine that great blue arrow plunging into the exposed ribs of and girders.

We could see it falling down and down through the superstructure until it reached a surface to collide with with bits sheering off it on the way down creating there own explosions.

It would do a lot more damage too as the final explosion would be nearer to the core (possibly enough to take out a whole battlestation if you went with the 2 Death Star scenerio).

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Bingowings said:

If you go for the Piett Defection scenerio or not it would still be more visually interesting to have the Executor crash into the incomplete side of a/the Death Star.

Imagine that great blue arrow plunging into the exposed ribs of and girders.

We could see it falling down and down through the superstructure until it reached a surface to collide with with bits sheering off it on the way down creating there own explosions.

It would do a lot more damage too as the final explosion would be nearer to the core (possibly enough to take out a whole battlestation if you went with the 2 Death Star scenerio).

Remember this? :)

 

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^ I remember looking at those. They're marvelous! And I'm so in love with your Death Star mock-up too. I can't wait to see that blue atmosphere in Jedi being replaced by proper black space.

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Oh yes I remember it well because it prompted my first mockup on here.

But imagine a sequence drawn out almost to Enterprise D crash proportions only vertical rather than mostly horizontal and ending with a BOOM!.

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Hey guys just tinkered around with the Falcon see if i cud give it a damaged look, please dont be too harsh of my fire, was quickly done lmao.

Before:

After:

With few really badly made flames:

 

Ok maybe a but more than a few lmao!!!

Hope you guys like it though :)

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I'd buy that for a dollar :D

 

Cool work. can you make some examples in real footage?

 

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Originally the Falcon's cockpit was to rotate (like a B-Wing) a feature would be useful in race through the Death Star.

Is there a way this could be accommodated with the set designs?

It would be handy if the cockpit always pointed in one direction no matter what the orientation of the ship was.

It could have been something Han switched off but Lando switched back on with unfortunate results.