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doubleofive said:

And Angel, beautiful Endor mattes.  I especially like the sunrise arrival picture.  However, something might have to be done to this matte to help it fit this new approach:

It's not clear where they are headed, what direction that day/night terminator is headed, or why they have to have the DS lower the shield in the first place.

Seriously, I just remembered how much that's always bothered me.  Why do they have to lower the shield to land and spend at least a day approaching the shield generator?  Does the shield spread out around the ground so that you can't dive bomb the generator or do exactly what the Rebels try to do?  What do the Ewoks think that are trapped on the other side of the shield?

You know best 005 that ROTJ is full of copy pastes and poor compositing work. Death star is always look the same. I was wondering why they made the model if it was to use only one angle of it? It seems also to be in different places between shots.

I agree totaly with you that something can be done to this particular scene.

The dawn concept stands with the idea of variation and to show that several hours passed since rebels landed and prepared.


-Angel

 

PS:

I love the hangar here! Id prefer the shot without the ships ofc.

Something that dont look right to me is the shadow type. sun creates hard shadows( as we see in your rock pic) but it has some soft shadows on the palace (im not talking about the curvature)

a + tip is good to add some sky illumination to the palace as sublight as well to some rocks.

 

Keep it up! i want to see it done :D

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Hi Angel,

Not quite sure what you mean on a couple of those points. This really is only a mock-up, none of those aspects have been finalised, I'm just trying out a few different layouts of things.

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fishmanlee said:

im practicing creating some mockup mattes



I like that. It feels more like a night shot! the over contrast lights do their job preety awesome as the subltle night stars from behind!

Im impressed :O

 

-Angel

 

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doubleofive said:

However, something might have to be done to this matte to help it fit this new approach:

Its me or the shuttle element is the same with the one that is in the forest shot?

dont bother to ask about the death star :) I ll try to find a better angle of it and the correct lighting.

 

-Angel

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Now that is a lot better - great mock up Vaderois.

Oh and it needs the Death Star II....oh wait....you told us not to ask :)

Looking forward to seeing the final pic and I'm sure you'll get a good looking angle for the DSII.

Father, Husband, Nerd (of Batman and Star Wars mainly)

Tayyab

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It would be nice if the Death Star was in partial eclipse of the sun and Forest Moon so the gold bit was the diamond ring and we could see the Death Star lights (most of the time in ROTJ Death Star II is just a broken grey ball always pointing the same way).

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Here is my Luke in Ben's hut picture. It is harsh because it is from the GOUT lol.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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vaderios said:
doubleofive said:

However, something might have to be done to this matte to help it fit this new approach:

Its me or the shuttle element is the same with the one that is in the forest shot?

dont bother to ask about the death star :) I ll try to find a better angle of it and the correct lighting.

 

-Angel

Ask and it shall be given me.  Your name is truly justified. ;-)

If only I had these in HD, they might replace Ady's "Sun Behind Cloud City" I've had as my background since the trailer came out...

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Bingowings said:

It would be nice if the Death Star was in partial eclipse of the sun and Forest Moon so the gold bit was the diamond ring and we could see the Death Star lights (most of the time in ROTJ Death Star II is just a broken grey ball always pointing the same way).

Sounds good to me.

I want some of your mockups to catch your visualization of the shot.

doubleofive said:

Ask and it shall be given me.  Your name is truly justified. ;-)

If only I had these in HD, they might replace Ady's "Sun Behind Cloud City" I've had as my background since the trailer came out...

I didnt save that shot in HD but its easy to be done again. I have the sunset and sunrise tho! I will give them to you as present :P


-Angel

 

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I've tried to get the idea nailed down but no success as yet,

I got this far but it's not really what I mean:

Bif Death Star

though my efforts did throw out this little accident which looks more like Bespin to me.

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OK WOWZA thats a  brilliant beauty shot

Bingowings said: Do you want to see the project finished as a playable film or a flick book?

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Bingowings said:

This is a bit closer :

Death Star Eclipse

Love it.  But the lighting is still coming from the same area.  We need a completely Dark Side of the Moon (sorry, "space station") matte, then this would be perfect!

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It annoys me that they built this huge beautiful model with lights and everything and barely filmed it, often just using the same shots over and over again or using matte paintings which didn't always match up.

It might be possible to use the light mattes/shots from Death Star 1 but it is actually a very different model (the dish is in a different ratio to the globe from what I can make out).

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Damn! Bingowings that is amazing - I think the shuttle is a little too close to the Death Star on the first mock-up (though I know that's just a test) and you might do some other little tweaks here and there with the other mock-up, but on the whole they look rather magnificent (the 2nd one being my fave).

Father, Husband, Nerd (of Batman and Star Wars mainly)

Tayyab