The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 97

DarthPlagueis said:

Hey ben! I've just watched the video.

First the nitpicky stuff:

Well, there is obviously some work to do sound-wise. Especially in the last part the voices are a bit low and not too well blended with the new background sounds and musical score.

The colors are overall much of an improvement, but seem to be - as previously said - a bit washed out. But overall I really like the style you want to achieve with this, it does it job, just could use some little tweaks.

The good stuff:

I REALLY liked the video. It lacks technically a little, but it's obviously still a work in progress... So overall it's good stuff. The scene in which Padme confesses her love to Anakin is an improvement upon the original and the new music works much better.

When they ride into the arena the new music and editing seemed to add a new tension that was lacking from the original and added some new weight to the scene.

Consensus:

Great concept, great execution! Good job, bro. Altogether I'd rather get rid of the whole scene but that's virtually impossible... But you improved A LOT on it and I might even start to like it now ... :p

thanks for the feedback! the edit turned into one of those 4AM 8hour edit-thons that wilhopefully benefit from some fresh eyes this morning. the colours i admit are far more washed out than appeared yesterday, and will be fixed. i think im going to have to tailor each shot a bit more as oppose to using my uber-photoshop filter on the whole scene. the only variation is when they first leave the cave.

i initially made two colour sets, inside and outside. outsdie was far more coloured, and inside i wanted to have the outside appearing overly bright, thus desaturated. the exit now fades from desaturated-saturated as if their eyes are now adjusting.

sounds an issue. def needs work. i dont suppose anyone noticed but i shifted anakins pitch down quite alot so it at least appears that he is a man who can carry off darth vaders voice.

ill correct it for the second half, and will hopefully have jabba back too.;)

heres a little experiment,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-7nWeLA8Y

ben_danger said:

heres a little experiment,

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-7nWeLA8Y

As a proof of concept it works very well, sure all the other colours are shifted out but that wasn't the point of the exercise.

I'm really beginning to enthuse about the idea of blue for Jedi, red for Sith and green for Luke in ROTJ.

I know it doesn't appeal to everyone but it's sits well with me.

Something as simple as a colour acting as a metaphor of rebirth, love it.

ben_danger said:

heres a little experiment,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-7nWeLA8Y

I wasn't too sure about the whole only blue sabers concept (I liked the theory, but didn't think it would look good in practice). Your clip convinced me though, it doesn't look bad at all!

It actually looks better, more unified. It also helps the Jedi look more single minded.

The contrast with Luke in ROTJ... it's perfect.

Go for it!

Very interesting effect.

thanks for the feedback everyone!:D sounds silly, but knowing people watch them makes it worthwhile if you know what i mean.

Darth Chronus in regards to the yellow sabers, is that an EU thing or a personal preferance?

omg, if only AOTC was this cool.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O3nHFEPCHTg&feature=related

Please, no.  If we must have any color besides blue and red, make it green - but even that I'm not a fan of.  I'd much prefer all blue until Luke in ROTJ, symbolizing that Luke has found the "middle way" (to bring a bit of a Buddhist mentality to this) between "pure" light side, which is too restrictive, and "pure" dark side, which is too corrupt, thus heralding a new age of Jedi not bound to highly restrictive dogma the way the Jedi of the Old Republic had been.

But then again, I wouldn't mind certain Jedi masters having green (Qui-Gon, Yoda [if he must be seen with a lightsaber, which I'm also very much against], Windu, etc.), just as long as there's no fucking purple, yellow, orange, pink, or any of that shit.  I could deal with white for trainees, though.

fishmanlee said:

no purple for the emporer if anything it should be black

Funny that [at least to me] - Blacklights ARE purple ;)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blacklight

Saber colours in the filmsseemed pretty self explanatory up to and including TPM.

Blue = Padawan/Knight

Green = Master

Red = Sith

I would think Luke's green saber doesn't count, since he had to work with what he had.

Then AOTC came along with Windu's purple. Now since he seems to be the leader of the Jedi Council, yo could say that's why he had that colour. Still, there was rather an equal ratio of blue and green in the arena battle, which seemed to say there were as many masters as knights, which makes no sense.

Then bloody ROTS happened. Now it's completely random whether someone has a blue or green, half the people on the council have blue, half have green. Well done with that Lucas.

So something needs to be done. Everyone having blue will make for a real "holy ****!" moment in ROTJ:R when Luke lights up his green saber, which would be cool, but three films of nothing but blue sabers everywhere with a couple of reds would be a bit monotonous. Have some kind of a system at least, so that the colours are given meaning.

Possibility 1:

Everyone has blue.

Possibility 2:

Everyone on the council has green, as does Qui-Gon, everyone else has blue. Windu has green like the rest.

Possilibity 3:

Everyone has blue, except for Windu, Yoda (if his saber is seen at all) and Dooku, who have either green or purple, and they are set up as the three leaders of the council.

Possilibilty 4:

Kept the same. This is the idiotic option.

Possilibty 5:

Everyone has blue, except for Windu and Dooku, who have purple/green, Windu's role is redone to be that of a borderline renegade, Dooku is redone to be a full blown renegade. This has been done before, and it worked well.

For me, I don't want to lose all the green sabers, particularly Qui-Gon's saber, as I felt it designated him as the master, by having a different saber. However, if everyone on the council has a green saber, since they have to be a master, and to prevent colours being random, you'd have to have Obi-Wan in ROTS with a green, when in ANH, his saber, the same one he has in ROTS, is blue. So really, thanks a bunch for the big mess, George, was it really that hard to keep things organised?

I guess the best way to go is number three for me, even if it means losing Qui-Gon's green. Actually, come to think of it, with option 5, you could give Qui-Gon a green along with Dooku and Windu, since he's already borderline renegade with all his defying the council stuff.

What a mess.