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STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION — Page 298

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Hear hear,

I would say ditto to you Darth P.  That is EXACTLY how I feel about all of this: watching ANH:R made me realize that ONE MAN and ONE PC can do the impossible, which is pretty much the feeling I got when I first watched STAR WARS at 7 in 1977.  Before, it was obvious models with wires and stop-motion critters.. and while it was all good and cool, you could still tell it wasn't quite real. 

STAR WARS blew that notion out of the water in the first 2 minutes and after that Star Destroyer went overhead there was no nitpicking or seat squirming.. it was like what everyone is saying AVATAR will do to your eyeballs over at AICN.  If my eyes could have smoked a cigarette after watching SW, they would have.

And again, you grow older and more cynical, if for no other reason than you just know what to look for - the wires, the matte lines, the zippers.  Even if it is unintentional, after you see THE WIZARD OF OZ for the first time, the next time you KNOW what's behind the curtain.

Yeah, after watching ANH:R multiple times and being on my 6th or 7th time, the magic is a little worn off.. there are still little niggles here and there, but damn if the Falcon escape and the Last Battle don't make me feel like 7 all over again no matter how many times I see it.  And one guy did that.  On one home PC.

Because of ANH:R I want to see if I can do the same to those movies that I feel could use the spicing up or had a major impact on me... and I know that it can be done.  In my house on my PC.  I may have to ask or beg others for help, I may have to spend 2 to 4 years cracking my brain to figure out what Ady already has, but the bottom line is he has proven it CAN be done, which is where the bulk of the praise comes in.

Forget that this is the definitive version of STAR WARS or whatever.. ONE MAN did this for FREE.   Jesus Christ on a tap dancing pogo stick, is there really anything to complain about, being that he did the work and provides us the movie FOR FREE?!?!

         

 “You people must realize that the public owns you for life, and when you’re dead, you’ll all be in commercials dancing with vacuum cleaners.”

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AMEN TO THAT, Monroville.

A wise man once said that only if you consider the impossible, you can achieve the impossible.

But that man is no more. Consumed by greed and wealth.

-- R.I.P. George Lucas --

These things tend to remind me of an old story. A story of rebellion. A story of children who had to fight their own father after he turned to evil and became what he swore to destroy.

Figuratively, we all are those children. We are leading the rebellion against our evil father who turned to evil and we too have the choice too either fight him or join him. We can forget what Star Wars really was about and just go with the flow. Buy crappy DVD's, laugh at Jar Jar's jokes, buy Yoda-kicking-ass-with-his-lightsaber action dolls. Or we can support what Ady's doing. The restoration and resurrection of the original Star Wars and the attempt at salvaging the horrible prequel trilogy.

Fans already had one victory. Letting George release the originals on DVD. A big joke, I know. But he did it. And he swore never to do it.

I'm pretty sure that George has heard of Revisited. Does he care? Probably not. But do we care? That's what counts. Lucas' biggest dream is to have only his versions of Star Wars remain. But that can change. And it will change. It must change. I'm not showing this crap to my kids.

"Daddy, why doesn't R2 just fly out of there?"
"Because he's tired, dear. No more tough questions for daddy."

Well... This bickering is probably pointless since everything pretty much has already been said about this.

Ady, you've done an AMAZING job. I and all the other fans owe you SO MUCH.

I'm as much an Adywan fan as I am a Star Wars fan now. And that means a lot!!

~~ Plagueis

 

 

Who's the more foolish... the fool who makes or the fool who buys this crap?

   - George Lucas on the 2004 SE DVD's

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Plagueis:

"Ady, you've done an AMAZING job. I and all the other fans owe you SO MUCH."

Baaaaa.

You make it sound like he created the entire movie in the first place.

 

Monroville:

Forget that this is the definitive version of STAR WARS or whatever.. ONE MAN did this for FREE.   Jesus Christ on a tap dancing pogo stick, is there really anything to complain about, being that he did the work and provides us the movie FOR FREE?!?!

Definitive? If you think so, I'm happy for you. And about providing it for free, do remember that's piracy, won't you. And yes, there is plenty to complain about, when people like you and Plaguis post things like this. It's embarrassing.

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Troll indeed. Read my previous posts and then consider whether I'm a troll. Unless, of course, a troll is someone who dares to offer a counterpoint to blind praise...

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Definitive? If you think so, I'm happy for you. And about providing it for free, do remember that's piracy, won't you.

There is bound to be a seperate thread for discussing the legal standing of fan-edits in General Discussion (if not please start your own).

How is something blind praise when it's based on a visual (and audial) appraisal of a person's work? Surely blind praise would be to praise someone just for the sake of it without seeing what they have done.

I don't think ANH:R is the definitive version of the film (that was released in 1977 under the title of Star Wars) but it is a very impressive re-working and superior to both versions of the SE.

You seem to be under the impression that those who have negatively reacted against your comments (including myself) are doing so because we agree with every change Adywan made and don't care about making further changes in future reworkings.

This is not the case (and for those who do hold that opinion are as free to hold and express it as you are with yours).

What is irritating is your unsubstantiated claims that Ady's work is:

not all that special and some of the praise Adywan gets for it seems to be borne of an ignorance of how much simpler this is to do than a lot of people realise.

We all know that Adywan puts years of work into these projects and while we may not agree with every decision he makes, we can see the work and appreciate the effort.

And yes it is provided to us for free (we already own the official versions of these films and any new elements are either derived from those versions or are original to these versions).

If you truly think the same results can be achieved with less effort we would really like to know how (it would be a great benefit to all of us, especially Ady who would like to complete future projects without spending so much time and money).

If you are just making this stuff up, you deserve what you get in terms of negative comments (not that I think it worries you much).

 

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Let's see.

1. Complaining about irrelevant issues (fanedit.org, with whom we are not affiliated in any way). Check.

2. Being a whiny bitch (about your supposedly deleted review on fanedit.org). Check.

3. Being factually incorrect (fanedit.org didn't delete your review after all; Adywan's project, whatever you might think of it, was not a simple or easy one). Check.

I could go on and on. And I will.

4. Ignoring what others say to you (the Purist version of ANH:R lacks many of the changes about which you've been complaining, yet you continue to complain about them rather than just get the Purist edit). Check.

5. Trying to justify your complaining (your comments may come under the heading of criticism, but there is no way they are constructive in the slightest). Check.

6. Not actually reading the thread to which you're replying (most of us aren't yes-men; almost all of us could name something about Revisited that we didn't like and if you read any decent amount of the thread you would know this). Check.

7. Being sarcastic ("dares to offer a counterpoint to blind praise") and antagonistic (your vague talk of piracy, as though we're tantamount to thieves). Check.

...get the picture?

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Being a whiny bitch

You call someone a whiny bitch and expect to be taken seriously?

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I already apologised for my error regarding fanedit, and haven't mentioned it since.

But as the previous poster said, calling me a whiny bitch and then daring to criticise?

And my comments were completely constructive, and balanced.

You need to grow up.

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If someone's a whiny bitch, I'm going to criticise them for it.

Apology accepted. I didn't see it, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume it was deleted along with the rest of that fiasco.

Points 3 to 7 stand. Plenty enough to label you a troll.

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Darth Venal said:

 

Being a whiny bitch

You call someone a whiny bitch and expect to be taken seriously?

Welcome to these boards Darth Venal, did you enjoy ANH:R?

 

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Hi there!

Yes I did, although I'm not sure if I saw the purist version I have read about. How would I know which one it was?

I thought some of the things in this version were excellent, some of them a bit so-so. Am I allowed to say that? One of the other posters seems a bit over-defensive.

But I liked it. Are there any other great fan edits you can recommend?

DV

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Don't let Ghostface fool you. As I said, we're (mostly) not a bunch of yes-men. Have a read of the thread (if you have the time) — or ask someone about the Great Flipper Debate. There's a difference between the sort of criticisms and debates we tend to have and the unhelpful bashing and belittling we've seen of late.

As for other good edits, I liked MagnoliaFan's take on Episodes I and II, and InfoDroid has done some interesting work on Indiana Jones. I'm working on a film noir take on The Matrix, or will be when I don't have to spend the time on study and music.

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The PURIST version has no music from the other movies.  That's about it, really.  It's also only a single-layer DVD with no menus.  If you did not download one of the DVDs, you may have ended up with the XVID version, which is almost a "rough draft".

And you're free to have an opinion.  The edit does have parts that people seem to split on, and that's OK!

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RoccondilRinon said:

Let's see.

1. Complaining about irrelevant issues (fanedit.org, with whom we are not affiliated in any way). Check.

2. Being a whiny bitch (about your supposedly deleted review on fanedit.org). Check.

3. Being factually incorrect (fanedit.org didn't delete your review after all; Adywan's project, whatever you might think of it, was not a simple or easy one). Check.

I could go on and on. And I will.

4. Ignoring what others say to you (the Purist version of ANH:R lacks many of the changes about which you've been complaining, yet you continue to complain about them rather than just get the Purist edit). Check.

5. Trying to justify your complaining (your comments may come under the heading of criticism, but there is no way they are constructive in the slightest). Check.

6. Not actually reading the thread to which you're replying (most of us aren't yes-men; almost all of us could name something about Revisited that we didn't like and if you read any decent amount of the thread you would know this). Check.

7. Being sarcastic ("dares to offer a counterpoint to blind praise") and antagonistic (your vague talk of piracy, as though we're tantamount to thieves). Check.

...get the picture?

 

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Darth Venal said:

Hi there!

Yes I did, although I'm not sure if I saw the purist version I have read about. How would I know which one it was?

I thought some of the things in this version were excellent, some of them a bit so-so. Am I allowed to say that? One of the other posters seems a bit over-defensive.

But I liked it. Are there any other great fan edits you can recommend?

DV

The best way to figure out which version you saw is to look at the front page of this thread and see if the description matches (oh and look at how the version you saw was titled, the word Purist will no doubt feature there if that was the case).

And yes you are allowed to hold any opinion about any edit or project you see here but you may get a less than warm response if you make comments which are clearly counter to objective reality.

Have a good look around there is plenty of fun to be had, things to learn and things to do on here.

As for other edits and projects, that would pretty much be down to your tastes and interests.

I'm assuming that you are a Star Wars fan as you posted here first and there are not just edits but some really good documentaries and preservations in this section covering every Star Wars incarnation I can recall.

And over here http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/forum.cfm/Other-Fan-Edits-and-Preservation-Efforts/forum/11/ you will find threads covering all manner of other film and television projects.

Have a good wander and if in doubt send someone a private message most of the people on here are a helpful bunch.

 

 

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Mr. Ghostface, remember what I said about the sensitivity surrounding this project? Well, the zombie hoards are coming! It'll only get worse from here. I'd consider getting my shotgun and making a stand with you (which is not to say I agree with all you have been saying), but I think I'd rather just cut and run. No matter how many you blow down, more will just keep coming. It is a hopeless battle.

It makes me sad that some people consider a hacked up and modified version to be the "definitive", but what does it really matter to me or you anyway?

I guess the whole, the GOUT has pretty colors bit is out... because peace looks a long ways off. My feelings are that this discussion has nowhere to go but down.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Thanks for the welcome!

I'll probably keep any unenthusiastic comments to myself, because no matter how well-intended they are, you always get attacked for them. So I'll just be a background member, if that's okay. I've never been a fan of forums and rarely sign up, but this one is particularly interesting to me, as I've been doing some "revision" work myself.

Can anyone tell me the easiest way to post it? I'd love to hear what you guys think.

DV

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C3PX,

Thanks for that. Yeah, I should have known better, really. You and a few others have shown intelligence and responded rationally, even if you don't agree with everything I said; it's a shame being balanced is so one-sided on boards like this.

Well, I won't stop posting anyway, because I will be sharing some screencaps from my own edit (which is in conjunction with another forum member) and I'd like to know what the more mature members of the board think.

 

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Darth Venal said:

Thanks for the welcome!

I'll probably keep any unenthusiastic comments to myself, because no matter how well-intended they are, you always get attacked for them. So I'll just be a background member, if that's okay. I've never been a fan of forums and rarely sign up, but this one is particularly interesting to me, as I've been doing some "revision" work myself.

Can anyone tell me the easiest way to post it? I'd love to hear what you guys think.

DV

I assure you it clearly isn't the case, all through the process of both ANH:R and ESB:R (not to mention all the other edits on these boards) people have spoken freely about what they like and didn't like about them.

But people who post arrogant or idle boasts, unsubstantiated claims and/or comments which are counter to the observable truth get the sharp end of many keen minds (you know like in the real world) ;-)

Both yourself and Mr Ghostface joined pretty much around the same time and you have had nothing but a warm welcome because you have been politely inquisitive.

Mr Ghostface came onto the boards and at first made observations both positive and negative about this project and was welcomed much the same way as you were.

When he claimed that this edit was nothing special and easy to do and that people who praise it did so out of ignorance, then the mood turned.

Anyone who has followed this thread knows that none of those things are true.

Express yourself fully but if you feel the urge to tell someone that years of hard work aren't anything special and the same results can be achieved without the effort you'd better be prepared to back that up with proof or perhaps you should hold off.

 

 

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I've just checked my version of Adwan's edit, and it's the Revisited one I think. I like some of the things he's done a lot, they're really great quality. Not sure about some other bits, but if that's his taste, then great. I can't wait to get some of my stuff uploaded to share. I'm about 30% of the way through a long shot (at least 10 seconds) of Alderaan slowly being destroyed, with a few ships trying to flee but being destroyed in the debris. I'm considering showing Bail Organa on one of the ships fleeing. It's partly inspired by the opening scene of Titan AE, except using new mattes of Alderaan (which match the original) and some borrowed (and recoloured) elements from Star Trek Generations. It's coming along really well, so I'll try to post some screenshots ASAP.

 

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Darth Venal said:

Thanks for the welcome!

I'll probably keep any unenthusiastic comments to myself, because no matter how well-intended they are, you always get attacked for them.

Unfortunately true in this thread.

However, I reassure you, there are plenty of other thread where this will not be the case. For example, in Trooperman's Shroud of the Darkside thread, quite a lot of criticism has been given over the years, some constructive, some just meant to be discouraging, and in all cases, everything was handled pretty well. That thread never, that I can remember, degraded into anything unfortunate. Ady's thread has had a huge following, many people who only joined up because of his edit, and I think this is what resulted in the major sensitivity thing.

I'd like to encourage you not to remain just a background member, but of course you are free to do as you choose. But you might actually find this place to be a very enjoyable forum to post in. Over in off-topic, and the general SW discussion threads, we are pretty friendly an welcoming and are always happy to have new members join in on discussion. We are a pretty small community, so new faces are always welcome. Just please don't take what you have read in the last few pages of this forum as the norm.

 

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Well, I won't stop posting anyway, because I will be sharing some screencaps from my own edit (which is in conjunction with another forum member) and I'd like to know what the more mature members of the board think.

 

Glad to hear it. I am not really big on edits (most of them are just more of the same), but every now and then something strikes my fancy. I'll definitely be checking out the thread for your edit and your screencaps once you get them posted.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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The best ways to show off your work is make new threads on the parent forum here.  I'm interested in what you two "new guys" have to show!

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Darth Venal said:

 

Being a whiny bitch

You call someone a whiny bitch and expect to be taken seriously?

Why do you appear to be posting from the same IP as Mr Ghostface?

 

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Moth3r said:
Darth Venal said:

Being a whiny bitch

You call someone a whiny bitch and expect to be taken seriously?

Why do you appear to be posting from the same IP as Mr Ghostface?

:-O

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