The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 92

To answer some of the questions: yes, this is from the AotC DVD. It's the PAL version, so I guess there's some more detail in it. The Yoda details were always there, I just "uncovered" them with a sharpening filter. It's a dirty trick, but it works in this movie, since everything is slightly blurry. About Yoda, he does look brownish in that screenshot, but fine in the video, must be something about the color profile of the screenies. In any case, I don't remember him that green. :D

I'm currently working on the Geonosis scenes, giving it a war movie tone (I think it works, let's see what you all have to say about it). I'll upload something later.

Depending on how you make the snapshot, it might save a PAL colour profile from the video. If you have Photoshop, you could convert the file's profile to sRGB with the "edit -> convert to profile -> sRGB" command. Or if you have several, you could use the "image processor" (under "file -> scripts")

(And I believe you must do this before you combine them into the comparison pic.)

Cade Skywalker said:

Rhikter said:

Cade Skywalker said:

50MB split screen

I would have uploaded this to YouTube but this time I also applied a sharpening filter (with moderate settings, I hope), since it was bugging me to see that the whole movie was just blurry for no reason. It's a 2500kbps MP4, that way you'll be able to notice the sharpening and the details.

Is this the same split screen you posted earlier?  I have satellite internet with a low download speed and a bandwidth cap, so I'd rather not download this if I don't have to.  I hate to ignore someone's hard work, but do you think I'd be alright without seeing it?

Some screenies for you (and whoever doesn't want to download a 50MB video)

Guess I'll have to open a thread soon.

 Great work, but that video reminds me just how horrendous the acting is in AOTC, especially by Natalie Portman.

The Golden Idol said:

Cade Skywalker said:

Rhikter said:

Cade Skywalker said:

50MB split screen

I would have uploaded this to YouTube but this time I also applied a sharpening filter (with moderate settings, I hope), since it was bugging me to see that the whole movie was just blurry for no reason. It's a 2500kbps MP4, that way you'll be able to notice the sharpening and the details.

Is this the same split screen you posted earlier?  I have satellite internet with a low download speed and a bandwidth cap, so I'd rather not download this if I don't have to.  I hate to ignore someone's hard work, but do you think I'd be alright without seeing it?

Some screenies for you (and whoever doesn't want to download a 50MB video)

Guess I'll have to open a thread soon.

 

 Great work, but that video reminds me just how horrendous the acting is in AOTC, especially by Natalie Portman.

Going by almost all accounts of George's directing style every Star Wars actor can make a Nuremberg Defense.

Some Geonosis work-in-progress screens:

I get the feeling I might have gone too far with this one, but the more scenes I go through, the more I realize just how wrong they feel.

Dooku looks good in black.

Though I've said it before colour alteration (and sharpness) is only really applicable to this thread when it changes the story elements in a radical way.

Great as these are Cade they don't really alter the mood of the films or the story (though they often improve the look of the shots).

Angel has posted changes that change the nature of the locations and the mood of the shots, I'd love to see you have a go at some of that sort of thing.

Bingowings said:

Great as these are Cade they don't really alter the mood of the films or the story (though they often improve the look of the shots).

 

 

Which is good enough in itself.

Cade Skywalker said:

To answer some of the questions: yes, this is from the AotC DVD. It's the PAL version, so I guess there's some more detail in it. The Yoda details were always there, I just "uncovered" them with a sharpening filter. It's a dirty trick, but it works in this movie, since everything is slightly blurry. About Yoda, he does look brownish in that screenshot, but fine in the video, must be something about the color profile of the screenies. In any case, I don't remember him that green. :D

I'm currently working on the Geonosis scenes, giving it a war movie tone (I think it works, let's see what you all have to say about it). I'll upload something later.

What were your sharpening settings? I think it's a great change.

Josh said:

Cade Skywalker said:

Some Geonosis work-in-progress screens:

I get the feeling I might have gone too far with this one, but the more scenes I go through, the more I realize just how wrong they feel.

Holy shit cakes, that looks great! Maybe you could help with color correction of Troopermans Shroud of the Dark side.

 

Or anyone's edits for that matter.

fishmanlee said:

the yoda voice when he says in grave danger you are should be changed to the one in the music video

What does he say in the music video?

Bingowings said:

Dooku looks good in black.

Though I've said it before colour alteration (and sharpness) is only really applicable to this thread when it changes the story elements in a radical way.

Great as these are Cade they don't really alter the mood of the films or the story (though they often improve the look of the shots).

Angel has posted changes that change the nature of the locations and the mood of the shots, I'd love to see you have a go at some of that sort of thing.

 

I have to disagree on the mood point, I think these alterations definitely alter the mood of the films. But I was going to start a new thread anyway, so I'll be moving the demos there.

Josh said:
Cade Skywalker said:
Some Geonosis work-in-progress screens:

I get the feeling I might have gone too far with this one, but the more scenes I go through, the more I realize just how wrong they feel.

Holy shit cakes, that looks great! Maybe you could help with color correction of Troopermans Shroud of the Dark side.
 

Well, I was actually thinking I might to a full color correction on the movie and just release it as source for anyone who might want to use it for their edit, then maybe do my own.

I think that would be an amazing resource. Now, if only someone would redub all the movies with no music! =)

Cade Skywalker said:

Some Geonosis work-in-progress screens:

I get the feeling I might have gone too far with this one, but the more scenes I go through, the more I realize just how wrong they feel.

 That's maybe the best color alteration I've ever seen for this movie without it being drastically different. Great job, and also I'd love having a color-altered AOTC just if it means different colors.

These pictures are amazing. Really makes the cg look tangible now!

Also, I'd be very interested in a color corrected version of Clones. Would save me doing it myself :P

Fully colour altered and sharpened versions of these films (in this style) would be a valuable resource (especially if taken from the HD versions kicking around).

While it would make sense to start a new thread for such an undertaking I hope you do keep posting here ideas of a more radical nature.

Simply providing such a resource will however aid other people in doing more root and branch shake ups of these films.

I like the Geonosis shots even better, Cade! (And I dig your avatar too. Amazing album.)

Good clip!

Based on this, I got another radical idea. Would it work, story-wise, to have the short Vader scene - getting the headgear on, with the Emperor standing by - as the very first scene of ROTS? As a way of building mystery - "who's this guy? Looks evil" - and introducing him early on as a central character. Then when Anakin fails, this other guy finishes the job. There should be at least one instance where Palps refers to his new apprentice Vader by name, so we could put that line earlier in the film. That way we just assume Sidious got a new apprentice after Maul (Dooku was never his apprentice, as far as I'm concerned), since we're not supposed to know he and Palps are the same man yet anyway. And when it's revealed, we could just assume he has two apprentices. (Oh, and btw, screw the "rule of two". At best it's just a Sith survival mechanism, but once they're out in the open (after Maul), it wouldn't make sense to keep it.)

It's blatant trickery, of course, to admit it was really a flash-forward two films later. Of the very worst kind. Still, it's fun as an idea, at least.

EDIT: Thinking about it, using the Vader name earlier in the film to imply there are two, is way over-the-top. I got a little carried away. :)

I love this thread!